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Far. all he would tell us was his client was extremely tired and they've had a constructive meeting preparing his defense. a defense we have heard precious little. we managed to get hold of gabe elder's father yesterday and this is what he told us after an extremely emotional meeting with his son. >> we are deeply upset by his predicament but at the same time deeply convinced by his innocence. he did not know his friend was armed. he only became aware of what actually happened after his arrest. >> the father of gabe natale there speaking about his son. as you said a moment ago, he said his son...