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Out of this negotiation, and if there's nothing to be gained, we shouldn't hold it. >> jeremy, that advice that you just gave us, for a young man, you qualify these days as an old policy hand. who is there in the west wing or anywhere in the national security structure to at least mention that, your view just expressed, in a meeting to the president? >> well, i do think national security adviser bolton is hawkish on issues like russia and on issues like north korea, and i think he's probably very concerned tonight. as you remember, for example last week he was talking about the libya model. pu...

National security. if there's nothing to be gained, we shouldn't hold it. >> jeremy, that advice that you just gave us, for a young man, you qualify these days as an old policy hand. who is there in the west wing or anywhere in the national security structure to at least mention that, your view just expressed in a meeting to the president? >> well, i do think national security adviser bolton is hawkish on issues like russia and on issues like north korea, and i think he's probably very concerned tonight. as you remember, for example last week he was talking about the libya model. putting aside...

That looks like. if he does fly all the way over there and they have a meeting, it's hard to imagine him walking out without anything although it remains to be seen if that thing is something real and tangible or a victory, something he can announce and nothing happens. >>'s that trouble maker john bolton? he's saying they've got to get rid of not just nuclear, biological, chemical. he's trying to reduce them to ashes. he doesn't want to negotiate with anybody. he wants to destroy them. >> he's about unilateral surrender of your opponents. he wants them to give up everything and we give nothin...

Got north korea all worked up when he said denuclearization of north korea would likely follow the libyan model. >> president trump: where is john bolton? the great john bolton. they think he is so nasty and tough that i have to hold him back, okay? that's pretty great. he is doing a great job. you better get some rest. we have some pretty good negotiations coming. >> you better get rest. i know for a fact that bolton gets up every day at least 4:30 and into work very early. the president has walked back the idea of the libyan model for north korean denuclearization saying that gadhafi never g...

Holding up libya as a model, where libya under gadhafi gave up its nukes and then gadhafi was gone a decade later. how much sway behind the scenes are we seeing john bolton have here? >> he's an important voice, but the president has contradicted him on whether the libyan model is at play here. the president really wants denuclearization. that's what he's pushing for. the question is whether that's something that is achievable given that kim jong-un's security is paramount here. that's what the elites in north korea value the most. that's what he is most concerned about. and there doesn't seem...