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They've been quite brilliant, like iranian leaders, because as they look at how the united states and its president, successive presidents, treat troublesome powers, if you don't have wmds like saddam hussein or gadhafi they come in and you end up dead. if you do have nuclear weapons, like pakistan they treat you far differently. so it seems like far from being insane or a madman, kim jong-un has played the united states and his father, the last three presidents, very well. >> indeed, and now he's also played china and south korea against each other in the bargain, china the big winner here, a...

Worried. and then, of course, john bolton, whom they know well, thought is was useful to start talking about 9 llibya model ext it's updated with what add fhap a few years ago with the death of gadhafi in the streets of tripoli and quite recently vice president pence joined into that. everything going in the wrong direction and i think the president was wise to call it off. and now the question, is it really back on and what's the basis for it being back on? i wish the president would maybe send a few people to talk to them and say, okay. what are you prepared to bring to the summit? we need d...

Of basic blocking and tackling of international diplomacy one would have expected to have been already done. it's still going to be this president and his people going forward. what hope is there that they change the way they go about doing this? >> well, i agree with you, chris. i don't have any way of getting inside the internal workings of the cerebral mechanisms of john bolton or donald trump. my hope is that, however, is that they may have learned a lesson here, that you can't be using the gadhafi model. you can't be using the libya model because at the end of that gadhafi dies and at the...

Talk of a nobel peace prize, a commemorative coin and now discounted at the white house gift shop with the note that, quote, if summit does not occur you can request a refund. as bill richardson the former u.n. ambassador points out this behavior of north korea is pretty standard. what happened? >> well, i mean, i think it's good reminder to first not give undue credit to donald trump before it's due and talked about how he secured peace with north korea and now doesn't look like there's a meeting and i'd say anybody a casual observer of international affairs knows that invoking libya with any...

Of state pompeo on the hill talking to senators. they wonders how much the administration's constant comments of the libya model, gave up the nuclear weapons and then gadhafi was taken down and killed. we know that that bothers north korea. so the secretary of state asked repeatedly how was that a good idea? how could north korea interpreted that any other way but badly? do you agree with this? secretary of state did not have an answer. he wouldn't answer whether it was a good idea, whether he agreed with it. you can see the problem there. >> apparently he, secretary of state, having trouble c...