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Along with what the president has said but has advised against it. he does not think kim jong-un is to be trusted. he thinks regime change would be the best course of action here. within the white house, in the last few hours they've said there is a team of staffers that are supposed to go to singapore in the next day sor or so to won logistics of the summit. that doesn't mean the summit will happen or will happen on june 12th, but it's an indication they have not quite given up on the possibility of these talks. >> it's interesting too, nick, when you talk about bolton saying regime change, b...

Spooked the north koreans, this mention of the libya model when john bolton, national security adviser, mentioned it. he likely was talking about the deal finalized during the bush administration for gadhafi to give up chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction, nuclear program. what kim saw was gadhafi during the bush administration, the government being overthrown, his being killed and dragged through the streets. has the u.s. put to -- to use a sloppy analogy -- put the toothpaste back in the tube? is it clearly off the table? although there was the double down by the vice president afte...

Do not agree. >> brie brought up very good points and my main concern, with this being on june 12th, there were so many moving parts to this, you know, it's taking me back to my active duty days, kind of shooting moving targets here and i don't think we had enough time to put this together. and i think it's a smart move to delay this and donald trump doesn't like to expose his playing cards. bolton did no service to him by his comments we were going to use the libya model. i know it was taken out of context, but the perception from kim jong-un was certainly he was going to end up like gadhafi,...

It was something that many reported might have cooled the north koreans to going to this summit, made them stand up the americans when they got there to do some preliminary meetings, et cetera. what do you make of the role he's playing here? how confident are you in the counsel the president is getting from his national security adviser? >> pretty uncomfortable. i think vice president pence and his fox tv interview, the two of them talk about the libya model, that is just absolutely horrifying to north koreans. gadhafi ended up drug around in the mud, sodomized with a bayonet. so the north kor...

Comes to that question what he's looking for. because i think a lot of folks are looking at his national security adviser, john bolton, some of the comments he's made publicly about wanting regime change in north korea, about holding up libya as a model, where libya under gadhafi gave up its nukes and then gadhafi was gone a decade later. how much sway behind the scenes are we seeing john bolton have here? >> he's an important voice, but the president has contradicted him on whether the libyan model is at play here. the president really wants denuclearization. that's what he's pushing for. the...