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Who either don't like guns, who are afraid of guns, which i respect, some people don't like them. but don't stop us who love guns, who love the second amendment from being able to protect ourselves, our families, our businesses and our friends. >> you have to meet a higher threshold of a background check to get a concealed carry permit and to get this -- in essence to get an open carry permit. why shouldn't that be the standard for all gun ownership? >> you know, i'm one who believes the second amendment guarantees everyone the right to own a gun. in fact, in the -- >> so why are we regulated ...

Supreme court gar reed those rights to individuals, not just militias. so only new york, illinois, california, south carolina and florida don't allow open carry. so -- >> do you think there are too many hurdles. do you think there are too many hurdles to get a concealed carry permit or an open carry permit? >> no, and i think, again, that's -- that is evolving. i passed a bill as a senator before i became lieutenant governor that changed the process of getting permit to online only, for example. so all of the states are evolving and i want to see a day whenever american citizen can simply have...