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Rooting for the story: Q&A with Stanford professor and Cal alumnus Gary Pomerantz

The Stanford Daily spoke to Gary Pomerantz, a Cal graduate and Stanford professor, ahead of the Big Game.

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to get to know her, but once she warmed up to you, she was very alive. >> when gary retired as a beloved assistant school superintendent, he suddenly had all of the time in the world to visit civil war battlefields, scour flea markets and pour over his antiques dealers catalogs. but there was a lucrative sideline for his obsession for memorabilia. >> he was big into buying and selling gold and silver. >> gary's brother, larry. >> he constantly collected cohen somebody golden silver. trinkets >> did very well at it. >> did very well at it. he was a good businessman. >> the golden silver went into one of five saves in the house. but the coins in artifacts, many of them museum quality were on display. >> had a lot of rare pieces, lots of indian jewelry that was a very quality pieces that he loved. >> what was his most unusual piece do you think? >> probably would be the walrus tusks that he owned, he had three of those. >> they were rare, 19th century hand engraved scrum shaw and each were worth about $10,000.

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>> bayonnets from world war i and just all kinds of stuff. a lie cannon. >> but did these collectors who had such a knack for finding treasure have a less discerning eye when it came to sizing up people? did that go towards explaining the dreadful toll in that house on that evening. >> i said that he is off in some way. i don't know. he could be a psychopath or something. it scares me. >> on april 30th, 2014, did they fall prey to somebody that they believe could be trusted? >> i had to be lowered to the ground and i started crying and screaming. >> not those. such good people. why? >> springfield, missouri is called the queen of the ozarks. a churchgoing neighborly city of mid size with good colleges. gary terral grew up poor on a farm not far away and knew

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>> trying to make sense of it. including this bit of information. gary's brother had told police that, not long, ago mark asked gary for a long. per the request in writing. and not just a little bit till payday. but an eye-popping, $250,000. >> that's the kind of money, if you could get out of the, houses a second mortgage, maybe if you are lucky. >> what did he make? appeared to be considerate even for a heartbeat? >> no, not at all. when he was talking to us about it, he was kind of laughing, and said you know, i don't know where he evenings i would have this kind of money. >> strange, since not only would mark, gary's former boss have has a nice mention of the school former intended. he was currently earning a six figure salary by the end. brother larry, had suggested mark might have a gambling problem. >> i knew he had some sort of bad financial issue. >> when the detective came back to the room, the tone of the interview had changed from putin. >> have you ever asked gary for money yourself? >> only, no, only four, only in trade or buying. >> suddenly, marc porter was in the hot seat. >> so, i was getting information from somebody that told me maybe had a large

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about like so? >> the big one was about yay= big, the larger one was not where was supposed to be on the other one was not there at all. jason told police that one of gary's prized tusks could be the murder weapon. the source of those mysterious white flakes. and jessica noticed something too. that somebody had been at her dad's desk where he sorted coins. >> he kept them around his desk in coffee cans and bags. and they would be sorting them. or organizing them. >> and a container, with what would have looked like loose parking meter change was missing. its actual value, around $20, 000, according to her dad's records. the killer would have known the value only if he moved in the same antique circles as gary. i decided with the brother suspected. >> perhaps gary went to buy some gold and silver. somebody had set him up and had somebody followed him home or got the drop on him or jan and had robbed and killed him. >> it sounds very plausible. >> that was a big worry i had. >> but as they dug into gabby's

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when he first came to the district, he drove a jaguar. >> nancy worked with both gary and mark. seem to get along very well. worked well together. i thought that they were friends at school and off of school. >> so mark went down to the police station to talk with investigators. >> all right, mr. porter. it is mark correct? do you mind if i call you mark? >> that's good. >> okay. i just want to kind of touch base with you and talk to you about how you know them, how long you've known them. >> i've known gary probably since, 15, 20 years. he was my assistant superintendent, i was superintendent. >> mark knew a lot about gary's coin business. he had started dabbling in it as well. he told detectives details that suggested a fellow collector could have targeted the terrells. >> he has people all over. i know he goes to hotels, he meeds people. runs ads in the paper. >> according to mark, gary set up one of those meetings around the time of his death.

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>> so they bagged them and sent them off for testing. >> and the crime scene text uncovered something else that could be a crucial piece of evidence. a discarded latex glove. >> so, a latex glove on the floor jumped out at you? >> totally out of place and from talking with everybody that there is no way that gary or jan would have left that glove. there it was right in the middle of the floor for everybody to see. >> did it belong to the? victims or the killer? nobody knew. >> so, it's collected, you don't know what it means. >> we don't know what it means, it was collected and sent to the highway patrol crime lab. >> they had no idea, no working theory of why the couple had been murdered. but they did have a sequence to the order of deaths. >> it is hard to believe that gary is shot upstairs if jan is still fully functioning and mobile, that she would've not called 9-1-1, would not have tried to intervene in some way. >> speculation tells you she is the first victim. >> she is bludgeoned to death downstairs, gary arrives at some point later.

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early on that his adult life would be all about education, teaching kids in this classroom by day. the history book in his lap at night. he and his wife, gianna, raised two kids, a girl and a boy who sadly died young of a brain cancer. gan kept the house and sold avon products part-time. they lived in guard and in the same house for almost 25 years and they even designed it themselves. life in missouri was good for the two. >> they love each other very much. daughter jessica remembers how extraordinary closer parents were, joined at the hip. >> if moments shopping, my dad took her to the garden together and they talked on the phone several times a day. if they were apart, they really did everything. >> they really were for the ages? >> yes, yes. >> personalities, gary was the fun outgoing one. >> he was a very jolly man. kind of like a santa claus. >> jan, a little more reserved. >> might take a little bit more

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and it involved a lot of money. >> he was actually going to sell $50,000 worth of gold for cash. it was a buyer that was going to give him $50, 000, that's all i know. >> he also mentioned text messages that he had seen on gary's phone from some other guy. >> gary asked me to read him some of his text messages. there are five from a guy that he had taught in a class i was asking for money. and i have no idea. >> you don't remember, was there a name attached with the text? >> i can't remember. >> remember, gary was shot as well as beaten. could it have been with one of his own guns? >> gary has guns everywhere. gary has guns in every drawer of the house i think. he likes his guns, he loves guns. >> but that mark gave detectives a detail that took him completely by surprise. >> he was supposed to meet me at 8:00 on wednesday and did not show. >> wednesday, the night of the murders. it was the first that police

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the only thing that we could think of, was that he was trying to get away from somebody, that they are grabbing ahold of him. >> or was the killer rifling his pockets for something? a key maybe, a combination? >> and gary's office downstairs, the detectives saw jan. >> she was on the ground, she was lying face down. but it was obvious that there was severe trauma to the back of her head. >> so, was this a violent home invasion? shannon gary had more than half 1 million dollars in the house for the grabbing. so a botched robbery was a likely scenario. and in the garage, please did find strange marks and scratches on a tornado shelter that was also used to say. >> it appeared that somebody had tried to pry the lock open. there were marks that were by the lock on the door of the tornado shelter. >> they did not get inside? >> it did not appear that they did, no. >> that would suggest somebody is looking for something. >> yes. >> but if robbery was the plan, the killer had left the oddball museum strangely intact.

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