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Beast. and jonathan, oss. jonathan, let's lie think it. you try to figure out today. you saw mcconnell make some sort of deal, promising a vote. not a win, but vote. ayes or nays on the dream act and whether they're going daytona under law and codify it and take executive order of obama and make into it the law. these people get to stay here without the law bothering them. it is likely it will become law? >> so let's start with this. sometimes when you watch the senate, you're looking behind, you're looking at the people out front. you have no idea what happened behind the scenes to get to tha...

>> so you're for the dreamers becoming protected? >> i want to see the deal. i would be for it if you coupled it with a change on chain migration and a change on the lottery system. >> you keep coming up with the partridge in a pear tree that. >> i don't have to do the deal. but that's the dheel will get through. >> look, ruth you tell it. will there be a deal? will we get past this argument that never seems to end? >> well, the thing about jell-o is i think that senator schumer is a little unfair to jell-o because jell-o once it comes out of the mold kind of holds its shape. >> it gels. >> it...

>> that's it. that's exactly it. this only happens if mcconnell and schummer are behind it and there is a deal with trump. >> look, the trouble with that, and i understand pessimism sells. and i agree with it largely in terms of history. if that's the case, yammish, this president is stuck with the dreamers getting arrested and deported in front of everybody. >> there is one out. there is nothing that prevents trump from pushing that deadline further down the road. >> by executive order? >> he already hint head would do it. >> he could do that -- >> not president. >> get into all the -- but i ...

In fact, we're not going to reopen negotiations on illegal immigration until they reopen the government and give you our soldiers and your families the benefits and wages you've earned. >> i'm sorry. we got the wrong tape there. gene, what do you make of this the fact that they're brutally using this, saying the soldiers are not getting paid, but the politicians were? >> well, a lot of tough talk. this was a base issue for trump. and whenever -- when he met with schumer, for example, and made a wall for daca, a deal, you heard the outcry on the right. you heard the outcry from his base saying ...

Support. >> ted kennedy was -- no back when george w. bush was president? >> i'm talking about five years ago. >> when he didn't have -- >> why are you saying the democrats are at fault when the house-led republicans. >> let me answer fast. i'll be fast. >> why won't they bring it gallup the house? >> my only point is when the democrats had the super majority that. >> could have gotten done. they chose not to i think it's going to happen soon. >> really? >> yes. >> so they're going to vote? that's good news. >> trump's going to make them do it. >> i think paul ryan also wants to do it. i'm not...