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with the west because the sanctions, at least the american ones will probably never come and go away. europe. we'll see how it goes. they're very, very much divided and is that as long as they are divided, those sanctions won't go away. this split is real and it's meaningful. and i don't see it mending for at least a generation. is that hyperbole and my part gilbert? well, i think it's exaggerated, it's really a bit early to say, how long this rupture will last a reorientation by russia towards these, towards the, towards asia, toward c. a southern hemisphere is clearly proceeding an...

a new route along the caspian bypassing western sanctions. with broadcasting lied to retro studios in moscow. this is our international. i'm john thomas. certainly glad to have you with us. right now, russia still wants to negotiate a peace deal with ukraine, but western efforts to bolster keith in its refusal to sit down for talks, could see moscow step up its military operation. that's according to the latest warning from russian president vladimir put soon your most lucian, today we're hearing that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. what can i say? and they're welcome to t...

well, i think it's exaggerated. it's really a bit early to say, how long this rupture last a reorientation by russia towards these, towards the, towards asia sort of see a southern hemisphere is clearly proceeding and will not be stopped by anything that comes out of the relationship with europe. it's personally on the rocks, however, in the kremlin, has been very careful not to burn bridges when not necessary, and to keep open options for some kind of a normal dialogue and interchange with its neighbors in europe. what, whether this will be a play out in terms of a restoration of, o...

center in brussels. we have gilbert carro, he is an independent political analyst, an author of memoirs of an ex, pat manager in moscow. during the 19 nineties and in la gann suite, cross to janice wood, conan, he is chief editor of m. b media. i gentleman, cossack rules are the fact that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciated gilbert. let me go to you 1st and brussels that i paint too much of a pessimistic picture in my introduction. the end brushes 300 year relationship with the west because the sanctions, at least the american ones will probably never come a...

cross sucking the west split with rush. i'm joined by my guess, url rasmussen in minneapolis. he's the executive vice president of the racial center in brussels. we have gilbert carro, he is an independent, political analyst, and author of memoirs. i'm an ex pat manager in moscow. during the 19 ninety's and logan suite, cross to janice wood, conan, he is chief editor of m. b media. i gentleman cross sack rose to the fact that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciated gilbert. let me go to you 1st and brussels that i paint too much of a pessimistic picture in my in...