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much, much run against dr. oz, he became a totally different person when he bought the house in pennsylvania, hugged donald trump close. and you see the ads that run against him where he's had different positions on abortion rights, guns, everything else. running on his fame and running on the fact that he's hugged donald trump very closely. it will be interesting to see when the mail-in vote comes in, mike barnicle, if david mccormick flips this. he is as joe said a mainstream republican, ran a big hedge fund. military veteran. he called a dark chapter in american history assigned a bit of the blame to donald trump. as the primary went along, he said yes, i support america and the first amend and we can't completely blame donald trump, he tried to get his endorsement, which he didn't, but there's no question he's a tougher opponent for fetterman. >> absolutely, he spent a lot of
week or so of the campaign. but you look at the map that kornacki showed, and he did -- he did extremely well, especially in western pennsylvania, which is absolutely necessary for any republican, if they want to beat democrats in the state of pennsylvania. it does say, they didn't say so, but i'm sure that fetterman's campaign would much rather face dr. oz. >> yes. >> who i think can be picked apart really easily. and dave mccormick showed surprising strength. you look at that map, mccormick does extremely well in rural pennsylvania. guys that look like him. guys that talk like him, guys with his sort of background, they aren't doing well in rural pennsylvania in 2022 republican primaries. >> no, gisele fetterman wasn't going to pick one there, there's no question that democrats would
>> you, too. you know, willie, just talking about this race, fetterman really, again, you see him campaigning around. he does not look like every other politician, in fact, he doesn't look like any other politician. i mean, he relates ordinarily well to the people of pennsylvania. and you look on the republican side, and i'll just say, i want to circle back to it. dave mccormick. i'm very surprised that mccormick, a guy considered an establishment republican. a guy that ran a huge hedge fund. a guy who has the sort of resume that republicans would have loved years ago. i fully expected him to do well in the suburbs. to do well in cities. and just get like dolan did in ohio. and then get wiped out in rural communities. simply because trump just bashed the hell out of him, the last