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Campaign. He did not do that. And if he abused his power, most likely he would tell president zelensky that he was asking to help his president ial prospects . You would never engage in conduct nor explicitly say, in this case, president zelensky, im going to bribe you now, or im going to ask you for a bribe, or im now going to extort you. This is not the way these things work. Getting back to you, we talked about hunter biden. Hunter biden had been on the board of burisma going back to 2014, correct . Yes. President trump supported ukraine with aid and otherwise in both 2017 and 2018, correct...

Direction. >> let me show you slide 22, if i may. you understood the ukranians recognized how important rudy giuliani was and organized him in order to stay together. >> they continued it through their own communication channels because giuliani had backchannels to getting to the ukraine officials. ambassador volker told the ukranians as well that there was this, quote, giuliani factor, that he told to president zelensky that there was this giuliani factor they needed to deal with in terms of the president. >> in fact, this is the senior aide to president zelensky saying to ambassador volker o...