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Point where you get to fire the number two person at the National Security council, i think that rises to a level i just i didnt know to expect that. Okay. We wont put a number on it, but its new. Weve reached a new spot. Thanks. Thank you, rachel. Matthew whitaker, Matthew Whitaker, were watching you. That is the message that Matthew Whitaker woke up to this morning in the center of the Washington Post oped page in an article written by our first guest tonight, congressman adam schiff, the topranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. Adam schiff will become the chairman of that co...

Definitely but we're -- we're just in the middle of all of these depositions that are going to last at least another week, richard. >> well, as you have and you don't have to do it for a week but today, if we do see an end to reeker's testimony, we'll go right back to you there on capitol hill. leanne caldwell reporting from capitol hill. thanks again. we'll touch base with you little bit later. former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst glenn kershner. and natalie andrews and daily beats columnist jonathan alter. glen kesh nesn kershner, this i question of what the federal judge did in...

Counsel and shut the entire thing down, said on advice of counsel, dr. corsi is cancelling this interview. >> do we know what happened in that phone call? >> we don't. but he jumped off, david gray jumped off the call with me to t investigators. something is moving today. i don't know what it is. >> joining our discussion now, glen kesh er inkeshner. jillweingbanks. it's hard for me to imagine a lawyer allowing a client to get that far, to actually be in the nbc car on his way to do an interview when he publicly says that he expects to be indicted. >> yes. it does seem a little bit strange. i'...

The other grand jury or however they want to do the indictment. >> it appears to me that he's been heavily pressured to bear false witness against me and perhaps other. i do know that he met with candidate trump and michael cohen during the campaign. i don't know what that was about. i don't know that this relates to me. i do know you could take e-mails and text messages out of context to try to create a false impression that would show that we had advanced notice of the content or source of either john podesta's e-mails, or the e-mails published by wikileaks that were allegedly hacked. >> so,...