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I don't agree with everybody on the panel today. and i do think the tone is not proper but it does go bac back -- donald trump would not be doing this if there was not an election in 24 months. i don't think so. >> you are on your own arguing. >> the media does have a part to play in this. we saw earlier in the interaction that andrew has with kellyanne conway. on a bigger picture, the media in respond to what they have seen. they're still fighting whether to call this racism. this is not just the guy at the end of the bar raises the president to the united states. they don't even go close to ...

Pre-born because they truly are more precious gifts. >> martha: a strong message. i know that mike pence was there today as well. give me a sense. it characterized if you could for our audience with this crowd was like. what you felt out there. >> i felt this crowd was very energetic, it was a little bit cold out here, but everyone was excited. i was amongst the crowd, when vice president pence came, i hadn't gotten back yet. they would let any of us go bac back. secret service was locking it down. i had a great opportunity to speak with kids, young men and women who came all the way from nort...

Pre-born because they truly are more precious gifts. >> martha: a strong message. i know that mike pence was there today as well. give me a sense. it characterized if you could for our audience with this crowd was like. what you felt out there. >> i felt this crowd was very energetic, it was a little bit cold out here, but everyone was excited. i was amongst the crowd, when vice president pence came, i hadn't gotten back yet. they would let any of us go bac back. secret service was locking it down. i had a great opportunity to speak with kids, young men and women who came all the way from nort...