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Joyce, the point is that they haven't read the report. republicans for the rule of law is going to deliver copies of the mueller report to every single member of congress. i want to play you -- lindsey graham was supposed to be on some sunday shows this morning, we are not sure why he was not. let's play 1998 and 1999 lindsey graham and when he was talking about impeaching a democratic president. >> let it be said that any president who cheats or institutions shall be impeached. >> he doesn't have to say go lie for me to be a crime. you don't have to say let's obstruct justice for it to be a c...

>> so just yes or no. to make sure i understand what you're saying. >> right. >> no, no, it was great. thank you for laying that out there. but i do want to make sure our viewers and i understand. if the president didn't necessarily direct cohen to lie to congress, but knew that cohen was going to lie to congress, then that could still be a problem for the president. >> i think that's right. you know, some may disagree with me. but i think if you have two people who are conspiring or agreeing or coordinating with one another, and one says, look, i'm going to give false testimony, the other one...

Aren't making a lot of money already by the fact they're in public service, that is a costly endeavor. it's part of the reason why trump is having so much trouble hiring people is they don't want to expose themselves legally. i want to add one, it may seem simple and a nonsophisticated analysis here, but what struck me about this story is just how easy and simply these people lie. what donald trump did, essentially, was he told don mcgahn go lie. go lie. either that or donald trump lost his memory about their conversation. and what eric prince did to members of congress, he lied. that meeting ...

Life illustration of the emotional psychological toll that can take a few nights ago when sam nunberg went on a cable news rant and said he wasn't going to produce e-mails. part of that was the cost, it's prohibitive. we're talking tens of thousands of dollars, and for aides who aren't making a lot of money already by the fact they're in public service, that is a costly endeavor. it's part of the reason why trump is having so much trouble hiring people is they don't want to expose themselves legally. i want to add one, it may seem simple and a nonsophisticated analysis here, but what struck me...

Front of a congressional committee today. joining us from washington congressman jim jordan from ohio who was at the hearing. what was most important thing, congressman, that you heard today? >> i think there were two key facts. first, i think it was established without any doubt that ambassador rice mislead the american people on the sunday shows. without a doubt she went out and told a different story than the facts show. >> bill: okay. let me stop you there. >> sure. >> bill: i think everybody knows that and she has apologized for that. do we know who ordered her to mislead? >> we do not kn...