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Kind of a slick way to insinuate that joe is not as fresh as he used to be. >> i agree with the president of the united states, why hasn't obama endorsed biden. what's going on. when we look at the history of biden. maybe obama is probably embarrassed. listen, i think it's time for joe to go, go somewhere and sit down. i think he has his own ideas, no ideas. he's been in government for 50 years. if he can bow out gracefully he'll be okay. jesse: do you think kamala knocked him out? >> kamala put a dent. her past ain't squeaky clean. i don't know who is advising

Why should the americans be concerned about venezuela. other countries have joined us. but people are asking why does this matter to us? >> right. because good neighbors are sovereign stable neighbors. when you have a country like venezuela that is couplabling under a couple of decades -- two decades ago this was a prospering nation. and then the people who lived there began to suffer and so they flee. three million people have left since 2014 and they have to two somewhere. go somewhere. you have money laundering and they spill over into other countries and we feel effects of that and we want...

>> it's a silly argument, then it's not an argument at all. >> good one, van. >> ken makes a good point in talking about, listen, let's have an open mind. and let's have a full conversation. and i am culley glad -- >> an open mind, van, doesn't mind being stupid. let's be honest. >> i'm trying go somewhere, though. let me try to lay out what i think the concern is with the idea that we would be adding guns to that environment. ken, you're pointing out the positives. the positive are maybe somebody would use that gun well and stop an intruder. there are some real negatives as well. african amer...

Democrats who are concerned about this move toward accommodation. have i to say, congressional democrats see a lot of opportunity to get something done, like protection for the d.r.e.a.m.ers. also, it puts the congressional republicans in just the worst possible spot. not at all clear how they're going to handle this. >> and then you have the possibility of cabinet changes down the road. nikki haley was asked about whether she was angling for rex tillerson's job, by our colleague, our friend dana bash on cnn yesterday. >> at the time that i went to trump tower, they were asking me to come ther...

Transportation and just couldn't afford to evacuate. >> how much of it is an economic issue? we've had these discussions. some people saying they're not leaving, period. that's a choice. others having, obviously, real-world economic barriers to being able to pull up, leave, pay for it, go somewhere, stay somewhere, et cetera. what are you seeing? >> we've been speaking with people who live in mobile homes and who have had to evacuate and are worried their homes won't be here come monday or families who live paycheck to paycheck and couldn't afford to purchase wood to board their homes or even ...