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Information not from the president but through mulvaney and sondland. the one exception is that there are these direct conversations that were overheard between gordon sondland and the president but republicans have been saying, well, maybe he misinterpreted or it's just his word. we haven't heard the president say himself that he wanted these investigations. apart from the transcript of the phone call in which he refers to the bidens and crowdstrike server and things like that. so the republicans will probably seize on this to try to create that space between the president and the people who ...

Michael steel, maria teresa kumar, and fiona hill former colleague, maybe a future one, ben wittes who is also an nbc analyst. heidi, i want to put up, guys, i want to put up full screen number two. because full screen number two is the email gordon sond land sent that these are basically all the people in the loop in the investigation from donald trump, mike pence, giuliani, pompeo, bolton, rick perry, mccormick, blair. these are all people who haven't testified. in a normer investigation, you would be like, oh, my god, they have to figure out how to get these people. should they be done? >> ...

So i was upset with him that he wasn't fully telling us about all of the meetings he was having. and he said to me, but i'm briefing the president. i'm briefing chief of staff mulvaney. i'm have talked to ambassador bolton, who else do i have to deal with. it struck me yesterday when you put up on the screen ambassador sondland's emails, and who was on these emails, and he said these are the people that you need to know, that he was absolutely right. because he was being involved in a domestic political errand, and we were being involved in national security foreign diverged. so he was correct...

Precisely remember how he knew that. now, since then, also we have learned about a separate phone call that occurred in july 26th which the president made clear to gordon sondland that joe biden needed to be investigated by the ukrainian government and according to another witness testimony, that was all the president cared about. so how will gordon sond laland reveal that as well? behind me in this hearing room, adam schiff will gavel in this hearing. it will be followed by an opening statement by devin nunes. each will get to question sondland for roughly 45 minutes each after sondland himse...

Can work something out to keep jenn here because the most valuable member to keep her here. >> nora o'donnell, taking jenn from us, nora, you know, i don't know. >> it's just awful. >> let's get to the news where it is friday and it's fun, but we're just hours away from more public testimony in the impeachment probe of president trump. today lawmakers will hear from former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. she told lawmakers last month that she had been the target of a smear campaign by corrupt ukrainian politicians as well as the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani and his...