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The house. but he had never authored a successful bill. so what his aim was was not legislating. it was going out on the husings and issuing this red meat rhetoric which few people have heard from him. it's a thing he does everyday. and then getting executive experience in indiana and positioning himself. he's been very effective at it. >> i want to get to some quotes in the book because they were extraordinary. just so i understand what you're suggesting here, in his time as vice president, do you believe he's maneuvering to get the top job at the expense of the president? >> oh, i think yes....

Actually believed he could bring trump to jesus and like jesus he was willing to do whatever was necessary to help save trump's soul. >> that's true. within the faith that mike pence subscribes to, there's this idea that anything is permissible in the pursuit of a higher goal. so the higher goal would be bringing donald trump to christ. anything that goes on in order to do that including mike pence abandoning many of his principles, he was always against religious test for entry to the united states until president trump said we're going to do it. it's not in mike pence's heart to put kids in ...

It, namely that the president is unwilling to sit down with us. the trump team will then say, no, no, no, no. we made every offer. every offer was reasonable. look at our letters. there will be a dispute in the court of public opinion as to whose fault it is that the president isn't sit down. that's a victory for president trump because this turns into a political rather than a legal conflict and the president benefits when it's blue/red, rather than blue/white/red legal. that's been part of the strategy from the trump team right from the time that giuliani joined it. >> according to people wh...

Was president, mcsally felt different calling his "access hollywood" tape disgusting and unacceptable, tweeting she was appalled. to this day, not revealing if she voted for trump. >> she still can't say build the wall. give me a break. >> reporter: opening herself up to attack not just from ward -- >> you get what you see. >> reporter: but republican senate candidate joe arpaio, long time maricopa county sheriff, convicted of criminal contempt for racially profiling latinos then pardoned by president trump. >> i'm the guy that's going to win this. >> reporter: you think you're the front-runne...