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Public trust when they have shown willingness to lie to congress. those things should be noted when you're talking to those folks as experts on the intelligence community and experts on public trust which i think is a -- howard: but given that they were players, i mean, i don't have any great problem with them being put on tv the for the networks they work for, but they should be subjected to a kind of grilling, the newsmaker interview and not just, oh, here's another contributor who says it's a bunch of bull. >> so should former trump administration officials who are now cable news contributo...

Well, so a territory of some economic and cultural value. identity in ukraine, that there is no sign now that the ukrainians, even the russian speaking ukrainians in the donbas wish to be part of putin's russia. it's just changed the situation, so it is one historically you would say russia would have had some interest in, but ite doesn't seem to be any indication now that donbas wishes to be russian, and if the russians take it, the great problem they will have is holding it, because they will be taking a territory that wishes to be and is ukrainian. and does it mean then, that all the focus ...

Crackdown. >> the government decided to slaughter their own people. and one more great problem, i think, is a that it was done not only with the help of kazakhstan security forces but with interference of russian troops. >> reporter: the leadership denies attacking peaceful protesters and says they've launched a full investigation into who was behind the violence that erupted. meanwhile, the country's president vowed to improve people's living conditions and rebuild the sites damaged as fast as possible. and they certainly are showing they want to do it as fast as possible, john. they are putt...

Fall? for months we've been talking about mike pence where he was hunted down and he's not saying anything. where is marc short in all of this? >> marc short is not a traditional trump loyalist. he used to work for the koch brothers. he was legislative director for the trump white house and went on to be chief of staff for mike pence. and the vice president's office and the people who work in that office, they have a different view than the trump loyalists. they really did see the vice president being pressured to overturn the election as a great, great problem. they saw this as disturbing. ma...

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