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Work with the kurds to destroy the caliphate there. we worked with the iraqi army to disrupt them in mosul. i don't believe you can count on the taliban to have our best interests at heart. without a ground component, we're blind and naked. >> martha: i don't know who would partner with us at this point. we've abandoned everybody across the board. so if that is the case, senator, it's going to be tough to convince people that we're going to stay by your side and if you help us, you risk your own life to fight for some kind of freedom in your country. we'll always be there for you. it's a tough...

You can find justification. >> this president had said a while ago he was going to ask congress for an authorization before he did anything. >> again, there's nothing in american political history that says you need to do that. you could put some air cover over parts of syria, but you also need a ground component. there's no such thing as making an area safe from the sky. we're not going to do that with american ground forces. we need something that's local from neighboring states or from syrians themselves or some combination of the two. that will be the direction. >> do we have the airpower ...

Targeted right now? >> well, number one, you need to revive the nsa program so we can intercept transmissions from overseas inside to the country to direct or recruit people to help isil or any other terrorist organization. you need to have better intelligence gathering apparatus. but all i can say to our police officers, you're a part of this war. you're a symbol of our country. you represent the good guys and gals. and just be on your toes to any military member and their family. these guys are after you too. so what i want to do is disrupt them. i want them to be worried about today being t...

>> yeah, well, he's wrong. >> they're positioning you to the hawkish side of obama. you read fred on "the washington post" yesterday positioned you as someone a notch to the hawkish side, because he said you were for a no-fly zone in syria, you said you were for ground troops, not necessarily our troops, but you need a ground component to tell them where to drop the bombs. >> exactly, right. >> does that make you more hawkish than the president? >> i think most of what i have been advocating, the president is now doing. >> well, not that. >> but we have special forces on the ground, he sent th...

>> yeah, well, he's wrong. >> they're positioning you to the hawkish side of obama. you read fred on "the washington post" yesterday positioned you as someone a notch to the hawkish side, because he said you were for a no-fly zone in syria, you said you were for ground troops, not necessarily our troops, but you need a ground component to tell them where to drop the bombs. >> exactly, right. >> does that make you more hawkish than the president? >> i think most of what i have been advocating, the president is now doing. >> well, not that. >> but we have special forces on the ground, he sent th...