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You can find justification. >> this president had said a while ago he was going to ask congress for an authorization before he did anything. >> again, there's nothing in american political history that says you need to do that. you could put some air cover over parts of syria, but you also need a ground component. there's no such thing as making an area safe from the sky. we're not going to do that with american ground forces. we need something that's local from neighboring states or from syrians themselves or some combination of the two. that will be the direction. >> do we have the airpower ...

We don't know if it's after a long siege or something less than that if isis decides to escape to syria to fight another day. >> is isis being drifb out of iraq now? >> yes. i think what beer seeiwe're see isis being turned back to a terrorist organization rather than a protostate. can these people govern? you know this really motley crew -- you have kurds and iranians from the shia militia and the government. the question is can they -- >> will they be able to govern? the question is what is isis that we seen in the past that when it usually defeats against isis are responded to by a terror a...

First since we have you here. hillary clinton 2013. first of all, obviously criticizing barack obama who leaked -- the administration would leak the terrorists they killed that day and had leaked that he would look over lists of what terrorist to kill that particular day in the 2012 campaign. talk about russia, which is absolutely fascinating. even in 2013 she wanted a close relationship with vladimir putin. >> what's interesting, what it tells us, is the piece and degree to have u.s.-russian relations have deteriorated. this is one of the big developments in the world. that we've gone from a ...

Personality they go back to what they were before they gained territory several years ago in iraq and syria, and you can expect to see it in europe and in saudi arabia and elsewhere. >> how significant is it that isis loses their territory? >> what it does is it breaks the narrative of momentum. the history on its side. it slows down the recruits because it's not going to be so good. this is not the future of iraq. this is not ultimately the future of syria. i think it's an important -- it's reduced to more of a traditional terrorist group rather than to a threat to all of the middle east. >> ...

Okay. the day after new hampshire. >> one of two things is true about paul bogala. either he is not telling the truth about the poll, or he is one of the most forward-looking people in democratic politics. even as he was helping hillary clinton fight to win the nomination, he was thinking ahead to the general election where his candidate would lose and barack obama would be -- >> actually, barack obama, got so angry at them with their whisper campaign on him being a muslim or coming from a muslim country, a muslim father. remember that scene on the tarmac where he was yelling at hillary clinto...