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Meeting at the "new york times" with a handful of reporters, is that enough to counteract that? >> well, you know, for an american politician getting asked to condemn nazi rhetoric is sort of a big fat pitch over the center of the plate and i'd rate his response thus far more like a bloop single. he took a swing, he disavowed, he made it clear that these people in their views are not his own but the white nationalists clearly see trump's rise as giving them a green light for their hate. >> matt, you were the first person to discuss this group on the air. who is this group? you have been target...

Denouncing of them? should he get on twitter or give a speech instead of saying to a group like the "new york times" "i disavow." >> i think a unity speech would be very nice. one speech after his presidency just uniting the country, it was a divisive election. that would be a nice thing. >> charles. >> it was divisive because he made it divisive. it was divisive along racial and ethnic and religious lines because he made it divisive along racial, ethnic, and religious lines, when he says islam hates us, those are his words saying islam hates us. when he says words like "law and order" fanny l...

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Things they do and be admittedly the platform for the alt-right. how is that okay? >> tell me some of the racist things that breitbart -- >> i will leave it up to you to go to breitbart and read the articles, i don't have time in this format but we have given example after example on this show and also on the other thing -- >> hang on -- >> let me finish. you made a point which i think is a good point about spending 15 or 20 minutes on this. the same argument was made about president obama and the left said the same thing, why is it a big deal about -- why does the president have to give a rac...

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