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Suddenly drops the no collusion moniker that he has been using for months and months on twitter. if that goes away for president trump it's not clear to me what else is left. how on earth can we judge what collusion is if suddenly it doesn't exist, if suddenly cooperating with a foreign government to influence an election is no longer something that we think is illegal or at least completely unethical. >> david, very quickly. in our few waning seconds, mick mulvaney is now acting chief of staff and head of kraft services in the white house. he has a lot of jobs. obviously a very capable guy. h...

Order many and i think the president in private practice, he was a gut player, he would go with his gut as to how to solve a problem. now he has to deal with a little thing called the u.s. constitution. >> does he not realize that, is it disrespect? ignorance? >> this is a problem that has vexed many administrations. most people understand this is going to be a quite difficult area to wade into and solve quickly with an executive order or new laws. one would expect that you would handle this with understanding that people are going to have strong views about it, is going to be handled step by ...

The prize i want is victory for the world. not even here. i want victory for the world. so that's the only prize i want. >> now that's modesty. what credit do you think he should get or does or doesn't deserve. >> well, let's see. we're giving him a trophy for being president. what do you do? you deal with foreign policy. we want to reward him for putting down his phone for a few minutes and actually addressing an issue of nuclear proliferation? >> you sat down with him 101 in may of 2016. what did that tell you about him and the presidency to come? >> an unabashed sense that he was not only g...

Ever seen anything like this? >> no. maybe it could be our summer resolution or something. you know, there is a common denominator here. of course no one, of course general kelly can't control trump. of course not. this is, you know, there shouldn't really be much of a surprise about this, candidate trump ran as a gut player, i'm going to run on my intuition, i'm so stable, you wouldn't believe it. one of my favorite lines. and guess what, he's not especially. whoa. >> couldn't have guessed that. >> at some point or another i think we're going to end up asking for this time back. can the count...

Feeling he's got control. he's in the cabinet he wants, he's always been a gut player. he's going to follow his gut now. this is what the gut is telling him. do you sense that from him on these decisions? >> yeah. i think that's probably right, and i think -- you know, you can't really blame him for that, i guess, if he feels like this is what made him successful and he had a campaign, obviously, that's scatter shot, organized, not clear lines of communication and became president. you see how he reached that conclusion. i think with hope hicks, he's more than a communications director, and so...