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People who speak for the president are not serious people. it should be taken seriously and gravely. we should not spend a lot of time listening to the things that they say because they shouldn't be taken seriously. the same people who are threatening jim acosta with not being invited to a pool event. this is the peoples house and these people, all administrations, are just passing through. this is not a kingdom. so i think this is what it is. the president is crude and crass. he will be judged for this. he's a gut player who thinks that kind of street talk has gotten him to where he is. we'll...

Think the people around him as the politico story reported that you need to feed him a certain amount of good news because especially the lastew weeks he's been in a pretty foul mood. the map that we've all seen, the county by county map of the counties he won compared by hillary clinton which basically shows a red united states i've seen on the oval office desk, something he's keeping copies around to sort of cheer him up as he goes through the day and recently hung a copy of it on the wall. the problem is a lot of good news right now is not true news. >> no, no, it's fake. >> and -- and it i...

About were there a -- kwr there analogous figures in his mind, were there case studies in his mind about different presidents as he prepared for the presidency and we ended up talking about babe ruth and lydia ko, the great asian american golfer. babe ruth had been asked according to trump, hey, babe, how do you hit the long ball? and ruth said i don't know. i just swing at it. and trump said i just swing at it. and lydia ko was asked how do you hit your shots and she said i don't know. i just hit the ball. thaerls no lucy and the football here. he is a gut player. it's instiktdive, and he is ...

Him which required director comey to testify and say he didn't. he has laid down -- he has started down a path that is way beyond p.r. embarrassment. oh, he's not used to being president. oh, he's an unusual type of guy, i think really. he is now -- he has put his presidency at risk. >> i'm agreeing with you that it's hurt him. i think what he is thinking, the reason he is doing this is he is falling back on his own tech north koreans. that's a different point. he thinks of himself as a gut player. when he gets insecure when he's unhappy with a situation, he returns to his gut play moves. that...

I don't know. i just hit the ball. thaerls no lucy and the football here. he is a gut player. it's instiktdive, and he is totally convinced that he can bully his way through almost any situation, and why wouldn't you believe that if you had his life experience and you were the president of the united states. >> only man who can quote lydia ko and charles schultz in the same paragraph. >> by the way, you leave out the fact -- despite john's long resume -- that he was editor of news week. >> i don't want to get into these petty competition between you guys. >> our competition is over. >> give me...