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Have a discussion, come back and figure out what we've learned. michael, we're talking, though, about mitch mcconnell. >> yup. >> who is, i've been saying on the show, mitch has to be going crazy. >> oh, he is. >> by the way, he was the guy on january 6th calling out trump. he was the guy calling -- you know. and he has seen donald trump pull herschel walker into georgia, right? >> yeah. >> we all need a decoder to see what herschel walker is saying at any time. you have dr. oz. >> yup. >> you know what that pause is? i'm thinking, they have dave mccormick. >> they had him. >> dave mccormick, ...

Violent. >> yeah, it looks that way. the problem is, we sit around trying to guess what does putin want? if greg were sitting in this chair he would say, why don't we call him? he's gonna call him if he does invade. if he does invade, are you not gonna call him? you're gonna have to figure this guy out. does he want the land or reassurances from nato? i hate to use a bad analogy. if you ever played texas hold em. one person is betting and raising. the other guy's just calling. that's what he's doing. two things. one is that guy doesn't have a good hand, the guy who's just calling and the guy w...

Anything out of it. and so what putin stated he wanted is reassurances that there won't be nato troops in ukraine by ukraine joining nato and reassurances that where we do have offensive capabilities in nato countries, he either knows about them or pulled back. those are two things in our own national security may not look good on an international stage to say that we gave to him. so finance up to our president and his cabinet to either through back channels and signaling or posturing resolve this issue. that's the problem we have as americans is i my an analogy on "the five" yesterday if you ...

If it's just about what we have of a transcript of a call and a nine-page complaint. and they are going to fish for the next few weeks with a series of guests and get nothing, is it enough to impeach a president or does something have to be unearthed behind closed doors? >> look, brian, as far as is it enough to impeach the president, if they are going to do a raw political impeachment where they are just relying on the fact that they have the numbers and they can make jay walking an article of imeevment if they decide to just because they have enough votes, sure they can beach is him over it....

Proportion of credit and look at what the south korea is an leader said about the president. he said he deserves a nobel peace prize. he is in general doing a very good job. >> no. hold on. >> we can micro analyze everything. >> hold on. anthony, just to be clear -- i get your point. here's the thing. it can't be unfair. i was getting attacked saying you can never normalize anything that the president does because they believe he is inherently a malefactor. this is what the frustration is. nobody likes the guy calling balls and strikes. we were talking about him deserving credit about what's g...