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There must be some reason to explain this. >> what republicans generally argue is the governments, you know, going back to certainly bush years and going back to reagan has grown. and so you have a new breed of -- which is really rather old school thinking of let's control the growth and size in spending of the federal government. all the things you just listed, i guess my question would be why can't we as a nation have an honest discussion about the value and worth and the expense of those programs. and maybe it's not a 40% cut. maybe it's a 10% cut. >> if romney is proposing the cuts, should...

>> if romney proposes those cuts, shouldn't he begin that conversation? >> so should the president. the president can't run around talking about spending this money and not tell us where it is going to come from. quite frankly, the rich are going to pay for the spending he wants to do. >> barack obama, you can argue with his policies all you want, ain't running as a guy giving stuff away. >> are you kidding me? >> chris, one of the things left out. >> i get it. he cuts opportunity scholarship for poor kids in district of columbia? >> mr. chairman. >> that's an example. >> back in, they're stil...

>> what republicans generally argue is that the governments, you know, going back to certainly bush years and even back to reagan has grown. so you have this new breed which is old school thinking of let's control growth and size and spending of the federal government. all the things you listed, my question would be why can't we as a nation have an honest discussion about value and worth and expense of the programs, maybe not a 40% cut, maybe 10% cut. >> if romney proposes those cuts, shouldn't he begin that conversation? >> so should the president. the president can't run around talking about...

Conversation? >> so should the president. the president can't run around talking about spending this money and not tell us where it is going to come from. quite frankly, the rich are going to pay for the spending he wants to do. >> barack obama, you can argue with his policies all you want, ain't running as a guy giving stuff away. >> are you kidding me? >> chris, one of the things left out. >> i get it. he cuts opportunity scholarship for poor kids in district of columbia? >> mr. chairman. >> that's an example. >> back in, they're still back in there. >> back in because people screamed. >> in...

Spending of the federal government. all the things you listed, my question would be why can't we as a nation have an honest discussion about value and worth and expense of the programs, maybe not a 40% cut, maybe 10% cut. >> if romney proposes those cuts, shouldn't he begin that conversation? >> so should the president. the president can't run around talking about spending this money and not tell us where it is going to come from. quite frankly, the rich are going to pay for the spending he wants to do. >> barack obama, you can argue with his policies all you want, ain't running as a guy givin...