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Not already been run down by mueller and his team, need to be thoroughly investigated before he can bring this to any reasonable form of conclusion. i think what's most attractive about the ongoing discussions of building a trump tower in moscow is that it gives us a big picture explanation as to what may have driven all of the president's conduct and all of the contacts by so many seemingly connected with his campaign and then administration to want to be in cahoots with the russians. i think you can make an argument you wind back the clock and say he never expected to win this race, nobody e...

Organization to confirm that donald trump suborned perjury by telling michael cohen to lie. here is what congressman chris murphy said when he read this news. listen, if mueller does not have mult am -- sorry, listen, if mueller does have multiple sources confirming trump directed cohen to lie to congress, then we need to know this asap. mueller should not end his inquiry but it's about time for him to show congress his cards before it's too late for us to act. phil, i know you disagree with this but what's wrong with the piecemeal approach? >> there's a couple things wrong with it. the first ...

Integrity. he's kept this close to vest. he has not -- there hasn't been leaks. clearly we hear from what mr. cohen, i don't think what he said is surprising us. but we would like to have all the information in order to see whether, in fact, that we can establish what is being said. so there's no question that mr. mueller is a true professional, he understands the responsibility he has, he understands how important it is what he's doing for our country. so let's give him a chance to get the report to us and let us be able to do our responsibility with a full report from mr. mueller. >> if the ...

Just one piece. and mueller's been doing this a while. he's not going to just come in with a witness who's going to have his head taken off for credibility without having a lot of backup. >> yeah. i mean, cnn has not confirmed this, this is just the buzz feed reporting that we're attributing. so much still has to be confirmed, nia. but, if and when it is confirmed, this puts all sorts of lawmakers, particularly some of the president's supporters and republicans in a real bind because this came up during the bill barr confirmation hearing this week and lindsey graham, i think we have that sound...

Will you vote for him? what's the -- why do you still have reservations? >> on this issue i thought his response as to whether he'll make the full report available to congress, he talked about whether some of this will be redacted. we understand redacting for intelligence sources, but we want to make sure that we get the full report and the american people get the full report and that he won't interfere with the mueller investigation from the point of view if he needs subpoenas or needs resources, that mr. barr will fully support what mr. mueller is doing. >> it sounds like bill barr thinks th...