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Over his own shoulder when he's sitting at the head of the table at that conference table. so other people are meeting with him looking down the table to where rod rosenstein sits, they will see robert jackson looming over rod rosenstein's right shoulder, watching over what rod rosenstein does. he put that portrait up there himself. that's his guy. pride of place for rosenstein. this guy robert jackson was solicitor general under fdr which means he argued supreme court cases for the federal government when fdr was president. he's very good at it. he argued almost 40 cases before the supreme co...

Off. you never hear of a supreme court justice taking leave. but robert jackson did. he took leave as a justice of the supreme court in 1945 so he could go to germany and be america's lead prosecutor in the nuremberg trials. so a fascinating character in american legal history and somebody who ultimately ends up becoming rod rosenstein's legal hero, up to and including the handsome portrait of robert jackson that looms over rosenstein's right shoulder in the conference room right outside his office every day. and when rod rosenstein on tuesday of this week went to do that event in washington a...

[ applause ] >> he knows exactly why everybody is laughing. because while he is running the justice department we've got a president and a republican party in congress that is hellbent on firing him or impeaching him or removing him because they want to fire their way through the justice department in order to make the russia investigation go away. and separation of powers is the only thing that stands in their way. and they know that. and they are very, very prepared to burn that down. and he is the guy on whom the heat is hottest. so he knows why his audience is laughing at this. separation ...

Watch. this is what happened next. >> he's stealing my thunder. but i'm happy to give it to you. so i'd like to hand you a piece of paper with the words of a famous american. i'd like you to just take a look at it. and then if you'd be so kind to read it slowly and aloud to the audience. here you go. >> well, this is robert jackson. robert jackson was the attorney general of the united states in the roosevelt administration. his portrait also hangs in the deputy attorney general's conference room. and he gave a speech in the great hall of the department of justice april 1st of 1940. and he spo...

Practice of keeping information confidential has often been the source of disagreement with individual congressmen and sometimes with committees. in 1941 congressman carl vinson wrote a letter to attorney general robert jackson. he requested fbi and department of justice reports made in connection with an investigation of labor disputes involving navy contracts. there was no doubt that vinson's committee had a proper role to play in overseeing such issues, which is why he wanted the documents. but attorney general jackson flatly refused the request. he did not compromise at all. jackson explai...