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Not this one in particular but a lot of the claims out there based on religious liberty aren't legit, people use it as an excuse, maybe that's the guy just doesn't want to wear a mask. >> well, look, the guy sounds like a nice guy. i'm a christian too so if i -- i would be hard-pressed to be picking somebody up 30 miles out of the suburbs wanting to get into the city and leaving them high and dry because they don't have a mask, so i think there is an element of religious, you know, discrimination here. but at the end of the day, shannon, we are in a different time. this is really about persona...

United states, lives depend on your integrity, on your wisdom, on your judgment and i just don't see it in this white house. >> and in the man, you don't see it? >> i don't see any integrity there. you look at him and there's just a sense that he would do anything -- a guy who has shown no evidence of any principle other than that of advancing himself. and that is so costly right now especially now that he's actually got this level of power and we're seeing the consequences at home where, by the way, he's not been able to deliver on any of the things he's set out to do or promised. the only th...

Boldest thing we will have done in more than 50 years. this is what it takes to get something done. >> she goes farther, more a. ambitio ambitious, more left than you. >> it's not better to abandon private plans. mo most americans want to figure this out themselves. >> if people have private insurance, that's what bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and others will say. >> we know how to have risk management protocols. other countries have done it. for a tiny fraction of the cost we can get every single american health care and do it in a way that respects your ability. >> you have the former vp,...

This game is about bleeding and who bleeds out first. i know that sounds completely dramatic, but it's the reality as well. how do you handle that? >> i was a 22-year-old campaign staffer my very first job working on the kerry campaign when an envelope came in to our campaign office with a purple heart -- cut out of a purple heart and a band-aid stuck to it. this is nothing new although they've taken it to new depths. denigrating the service of war heroes, scraping the absolute bottom of the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the way those in power treat anybody who gets in their way even a...

Make your decision. >> you have the former vp, joe biden, who says i like the way this guy sounds. sounds like me. i'm the former vp. i have the pedigree and the experience. i've been through this war many times. i know what it takes to beat trump. so next time, mr. mayor. what do you say to them? >> i say it can't wait. here's the difference. i've got enormous respect for all my competitors. i just don't agree that we can go back to normal. i don't believe that donald trump is a blip. it is a symptom of some serious, deep problems that need attention in this country. this is about building a ...