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Ken, let's talk about this. what's the news in this decision from the ethics officials at the justice department? >> well, the news is that matthew whitaker, a man who roundly criticized the mueller investigation as a tv commentator is now the guy in charge of major decisions. let's explain what that means. it doesn't mean he's managing robert mueller or looking over his shoulder. the regulations say specifically that robert mueller doesn't answer on a day-to-day basis to anybody at the justice department. but he has to update them regularly. >> ken, i've got to ask you to hold on. paul ryan h...

Collusion and what you're admitting is that there were a lot of key members to this investigation who you've never talked to, so your conclusion is not consisten consistent conclu. >> that's why i always say based on the evidence. you don't know what you don't know. you don't know what witnesses you haven't talked to or documents you haven't seen -- i'm disappointed that steve bannon would be interviewed by a book author but won't answer our questions. these investigations have more credibility and have more tools and that's what my fellow citizens should be waiting for and have confidence in,...

Admitting is that there were a lot of key members to this investigation who you've never talked to, so your conclusion is not consisten consistent conclu. >> that's why i always say based on the evidence. you don't know what you don't know. you don't know what witnesses you haven't talked to or documents you haven't seen -- i'm disappointed that steve bannon would be interviewed by a book author but won't answer our questions. these investigations have more credibility and have more tools and that's what my fellow citizens should be waiting for and have confidence in, not creatiocongressional ...

Representative gowdy and whether or not president shutrump shoul interfere with him? >> i can tell you, let him do his job. folks we've interviewed there's no evidence of collusion. that's the best i can do. executive branch investigations have more credibility. they have more tools and that's what i think my fellow citizens ought to be waiting for and have confidence in. not congressional investigations that are run by guys running for the senate in california who have never met a camera that they didn't fall in love with. >> more tools, interviewed more people as well. there's been a very li...

Voters out there. this is the most important election of their lifetimes. here is why they're frustrated. republicans took the congress, house and senate. didn't repeal amnesty, didn't repeal obamacare. didn't shrink the size of federal government. haven't balanced federal budget. tired of establishment in d.c. and leadership of house and senate and both democrats and republicans. what i hear from voters in iowa, new hampshire, other states, not enough to send a republican to the white house. we need to make big changes. bill, you have secretary clinton, president obama, taking us on the path ...