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Enormous ulcer -- enormous arsenal and lose control of it and has spread. accusing the cia of devastating incompetence for failing to protect its hacking secrets after they released thousands of pages describing and the tools in the techniques used by the agencyth to break into smart phones, computers yet they had wants an investigation into this week's build is alleged leak of of the spy agency. how big of deal is us.is this is about methods and operations and what were doing. the hacking arsenal in the 21st century of asymmetric war if we don't want to invade countries good intelligence will...

Thisser u. it's interesting, some say it does too much, and some say it does too little. >> i want to talk about the wikileaks dump of documents, claims coming from the cia's hacking arsenal if you will, nbc news not authenticated the documents. the cia not commenting on the documents but they include techniques to hack into common devices like phones and televisions, computers as well. back in 2010 the obama administration promised to work with tech companies like apple, like google to disclose vulnerabilities on an ongoing basis, these documents are dated from 2013 to last year. did the obam...

Hacking arsenal is out in the wild, is now exposed. that could be a serious problem. >> what's going to happen in the near future with this information wikileaks. >> we've seen president trump has raised wikileaks in the past, said "i love wikileaks" so this is an awkward situation for him. typically in these kinds of disclosures the president, the incipal consumer of intelligence information is the victim -- >> bause he won't get this stuff. in addition to praising wikileaks in the campaign, president trump defended julian assange in january taking his word over the conclusions of the u.s. in...

Why is this different? >> it's potentially huge because the way wikileaks released this information is by claiming these cyber weapons, these hacking tools have actually left the cia, no longer in the control of the cia, they've been leaked. the idea here is potentially the entire cia's hacking arsenal is now outside of their control and potentially in the hands of cyber criminals who can steal the personal information or bank account numbers orman any from people like you and me or it's reached the hands of former intelligence who can crack down on pro democracy dissidents. the potential here...

This, i think, is our greatest weakness. steve: it is a great weakness. we should points out according to wikileaks the cia recently lost it control of the majority of its hacking arsenal. so, in other words, while this is all out there, the cia has lost control of how they hack into all this stuff that has been very effective tool. ainsley: sets us back 10, 15 years. worse than snowden. snowden releasing individuals u this is worse because it's releasing the technique of how it's done. brian: what we actually garnered. last thing i because we have to get to obamacare and what's left of it and...