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That confident. steve: well, there are a lot of people who realize they are reading the political tea leaves and look, they want to have it both ways and ultimately can't. meanwhile regarding the whistleblower. dan bongino was with us about 35 minutes ago had a great observation about apparently this whistleblower is familiar with the same thing as the first one was and that's that phone call. >> do you know who else has first hand knowledge the president of the united states? and everyone in america who has actually seen the transcript. the way this works on these calls having worked in the w...

Bureau chief. thanks for being with us to tell us what do we know about this was a lower so the whistle blower has been described as an intelligence official we don't know his or her identity about as you said this appears to be someone with 1st hand knowledge of some of the other geisha instead were outlined in the original whistleblower complaint so that appears to be someone who can talk about directly at all that steve that relates to ukraine and to this phone call president trying had with the ukrainian president and that could be someone here who could undercut president strom's claim th...

Shops and banks to mainland china also coming up. tunisians go to the polls to elect a new parliament it looks like more voters than ever could throw their support behind outsider candidates as dissatisfaction with mainstream parties. welcome to the program. the reports indicate the new whistleblower has 1st hand knowledge of a phone call between trump and his ukrainian counterpart a probe is being conducted into an allegation that trying to pressure ukraine's president polluting there's a lengthy to investigate trump's political rival joe biden and his son. started to give the. let's go live ...

Apparent first hand knowledge. >> any clarity on the word multiple? just two, might it be more? >> reporter: we're being told to focus on one additional one. what we don't know is if the official potential whistleblower the "new york times" was hinting at is the same individual be represented by the legal team that is representing the first individual. so i think that we are safest to say that at least two. and beyond that, i think that it would be a little speculative. >> so corroboration presumably between the two whistleblowers. how does this change the narrative from the president and his ...

Hand knowledge. think of this as a way to bolster the information that's brought forward. and very significantly that other officials feel comfortable taking this career risk to come forward with information. whistle-blowers are protected under the law. their identity and protected from retaliation on their jobs for a reason, whether it's government or corporate america. whistle-blowers have historically been vulnerable to criticism and to attack, frankly, when they come forward. so having additional officials with knowledge of the events around the ukraine call is significant. and it will mak...