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Board take this ruling? by the way, many expected it to go this way for quite some time now. >> it means you can't make assumptions about anybody because of their race. that's what the chief justice was stressing. he said, you can't say, well, because this applicant is black or hispanic, you can assume they carry with them certain experiences or obstacles or what have you. he called that stereotypes. he did not rule out, as you say, that if someone has been affected in their own experience by their race, and he described whether it is obstacles overcame or a particular pride they take in it, i...

Months, are look at all the accomplishments and so on, and still continue to tell pollsters that the fact that joe biden's age, any president in his 80s, gives them pause. i think that's a challenge. hopefully from the biden perspective, hopefully it'll be a soluble challenge, but it does point to how stubborn that view is among a lot of people, including some people on the democratic side. let's start this hour with the landmark decisions, two from the supreme court yesterday, ending race-based affirmative action in the college admissions. the court ruled programs at the university of north...

This will make it harder to do so. >> professor greer, we talked a little this morning, and i really want your thoughts about how this particular ruling, that really said race, trying to deal with race in these particular cases has implications in terms of race being a goal to correct past discrimination is unconstitutional. they cited the 14th amendment. i feel in a distorted way. and how this could have impact across more than just the schools and education. it could have impact in business contracts. it could have impact in terms of board seats and other things that those of us in the civil...

Brett kavanaugh wrote the ruling would apply to students first starting college in 2028. reverend sharpton, yesterday morning, you and i discussed this. you anticipated this ruling. most people expected it to go this way. you had begun to walk us through some of the follow-on effects from this decision. how are you looking at it this morning? >> well, i think it was as bad or worse than i had thought. clearly, the court, in my judgment, stuck a dagger in the back of many of us that feel that we need to continue to legally protect people that have had to deal with historic inequities. you must ...

Bringing together students with different experiences. while not the outcome we hoped for, we will carefully review the supreme court's decision and take any steps necessary to comply with the law. the president elect of harvard responded in a video message. >> we will comply with the court's decision, but it does not change our values. we continue to believe deeply that a thriving, diverse, intellectual community is essential to academic excellence and critical to shaping the next generation of leaders. >> let's bring into the conversation the president of wesleyan university, michael roth. a...