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President's interview, i think they think that's a win for them. >> and you probably have heard just a few minutes ago my guest in this last hour doesn't think daniels' lawsuit will ever make it to trial. do you agree? if it doesn't, does it at least accomplish what daniels hopes it will do? >> it's hard to say, i'm not a civil litigation expert, but it seems to me there are a lot of hurdles for the case to make it to trial. often courts, if one party has actually done what they're supposed to do in the agreement even if they're the side that hasn't side, then often the courts will go ahead an...

Mentioned the mueller probe. this is a concentrated pr efforts rather than anything to do with facts. your answer? >> well, how about that guy from the white house that came out this week and-- the obama white house and says obama really didn't care about investigating the russia interference. there are so many loose ends to this thing. leland: i'm confused so you're saying that it was the obama administration's fault about not investigating russia interference, therefore it shouldn't be investigated now? >> no, i don't mind it being investigated now, i don't think he's found much for all the ...