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The surge started under obama. we passed in the house and got it passed judiciary committee back in 2015 but they did he ever did anything. steve: what do you make of the tone on capitol hill yesterday. for instance it, looks like an intern used the f word. f you president trump. and then have you got members of the -- one or two members of the congressional hispanic caucus heckling the president of the united states. >> i saw like six of them. they knew exactly what they were doing. republicans meet in the capitol, what's called hc 5. they went and staked themselves out. they had their signs....

Reagan's friend chip after the tragedy in beirut in 19282/83. >> i was there that day. i was in the embassy that day. >> wow. >> well, when the news that day hit washington, d.c., richard reid writes about it in his reagan book. tip o'neill tunnel called all the democrats to hc-5 and they all sat there and they were sure that this tough liberal speaker was going to be giving them talking points on how to attack the republican policy that obviously turned into this abject failure and cost the lives of 240-plus americans. instead, tip o'neill tunnel went up to the podium and he said "ladies and ...

Wants, and we got a heads-up. i'm going to give you over to the hallway. i think we're going to be seeing governor pence come down here. down the hallway here. and just to give you kind of a sense of where we are, we're in the basement of the capitol building, the room designation is hc-5, kind of like classrooms in school, some of these rooms. this is where the gop conference meets. this is a very -- we're down here a lot because they do this regularly. you're going to see him walk down the hallway and into a door behind where we're standing right now. waiting for him in there are members of ...

Isn't like a house that you say here's my offer, screw it, walk away. >> i don't think that's what they were saying. >> i think they were awfully reckless yesterday with this first offer. >> let me play devil's advocate. although i do agree with what you're saying to an extent. look at the other side that they're dealing with. the republicans they're dealing with. many of the same people that they've been dealing with for the past four years. so what would you do if you knew who you were up against? would you come out there with something that was incred reply giving from the get-go? >> no, bu...

And they were constantly scheming trying to figure out, okay, how do you get around scarborough, around matt salmon, largent, you know, the usual suspects. he's just made it so much harder for boehner to go back to hc-5 and say, come on, guys, we're going to have to meet halfway, hasn't he? am i missing something here? >> you might have thought that having known the storm clouds over grover norquist and hearing the uprising and all the fury over that that obama was going to have to give them some sort of fig leaf, some sort of concession, say well, yes, we had broken a promise, it was a really...