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Take a long time to meet. >> you write in your book about the last days of the trump administration. and you've written in a commentary this week about what would have happened if just little things were different by a matter of degrees on january 6th last year including if the vice president of the united states at the time, mike pence, had decided to go with what donald trump and his cronies were planning, had decided to simply announce while he was in congress that he was not certifying the election in favor of joe biden. >> and mike pence is somebody who had been supremely loyal to donald ...

Jailing them. there are court cases happening, as though that's the same thing. it's really intellectually completely dishonest, but it's classic. >> and it's the preview he gave leading ting up to the summit a well. he said look what happened on january 6th, we're sympathetic, but we want to avoid what happened in the u.s. and he's suggesting, again, before rushia had the veneer of having an opposition party and checks and balances, alexei navalny was not poisoned until just a few years ago, right? he was allowed to have protests, he was allowed to exist. now things seem to have changed. that...

President obama and prime minister netanyahu? >> i think in some ways it did. today represented a big shift in at least the public relations between the two countries. for the past year and a half, the obama administration has pursued a posture of what a lot of people call tough love toward israel. it is a posture of making a lot of demands and criticisms. and today, could you see them put this to bed. in some ways, it was really about a bout of reality. this posture from the administration wasn't working, it wasn't getting anything done t wasn't moving the two sides toward talks and it wasn't...