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Application. again, that was false statements charge. one to have criticisms that republicans and the gop and the president's supporters made of neweler, they said a lot of these cases that they brought were process crimes. that's kind of what we're talking about. we're talking about what seems to be process crimes about whether suss man lied to the fbi when he had this conversation. again, at the time, jim, it was well known that sussman represented the clinton campaign. this was not a surprise to the fbi. they spent some time investigating it. but they already had an investigation of the tru...

Didn't defend it may have a bearing on what the court does with the case, but if they strike it down the bigger question is how do you define marriage in this country because the federal government obviously has a compelling from in defining marriage when it comes to what it gives benefits to or what it gives money to or subsidizes. so, the door then is open even broader as to how we define marriage. >> i want to ask you, he evan, because as i see it. if doma is struck down, it doesn't mean that gay marriage is now legal in the country? unless the supreme court goes way out on a limb and rules...