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co-conspirators, we saw that in the documents cases right? it may be that he was unable to bend the new defendants to testify in his behalf, the government's behalf, so he ended up indicting them. i guess to this point, hearing information about unnamed co-conspirators listed out in the most recent indictment. they're saying, look, we've got a grand jury here, you can either come in and talk to us what happened or you can find yourself on the wrong side of the versus mark. it's pressuring people to come forward but it's a pretty big ax to have over somebody's ahead to figure out whether or not they want to cooperate and testify against the former president. >> and chris christie said on cnn last night not only does they think mark meadows, the former chief of staff, that he's flipped, but he could be one of
grand juries do important work. if you are selected to serve you actually miss out, maybe that's a reference to what's to come. >> and the final question here, the procedures been a bit complicated. there was a special grand jury that had empaneled, that had heard all this evidence. they created a report. that's something that i believe you can do under georgia law. famously one of those jurors came forward strike whether experience. but they did not for the indictments. now she has to take the evidence, her office, and go before this grand jury, to return true bills or indictments. >> exactly. the special grand jury the first one produced a report after hearing information supplied and another district attorney's office. by the way, the report was released and redacted saying that there was no trump and his allies had suggested in the report. also suggested someone may have
if you are selected to serve you actually miss out, maybe that's a reference to what's to come. >> and the final question here, the procedures been a bit complicated. there was a special grand jury that had empaneled, that had heard all this evidence. they created a report. that's something that i believe you can do under georgia law. famously one of those jurors came forward strike whether experience. but they did not for the indictments. now she has to take the evidence, her office, and go before this grand jury, to return true bills or indictments. >> exactly. the special grand jury the first one produced a report after hearing information supplied and another district attorney's office. by the way, the report was released and redacted saying that there was no trump and his
outside the federal courthouse in miami. shimon, just a short while ago, francis suarez and law enforcement gave updates on security preparations. we were talking to national security experts here in studio who were shocked at what you were showing in terms of the lack of barricades and just the police tape there given what we saw january 6th, 2021, did these miami experts give any specifics on what they're going to do if anything gets out of control? >> no, not really, jake. they basically just say that we're ready. the miami-dade county officials w we saw them a short time ago, they're asking us where we're hearing information that there's legit concern from law enforcement officials about the number of people who are going to show up here. it's not just because are going to show up here. it's the fact that they're concerned that people who are going to show up here are going to try to start some kind of trouble like we saw on january 6th. and the feelings here are much different, jake, and that's what
trump and his legal woes that continue to mount. >> how common or uncommon is it for there to be different grand juries sat for the same case, in different places. >> it is very uncommon, jose. this is not something we see, which is why we sort of have to let this thing play out in terms of understanding the significance right now. it is unclear as to what the strategy that jack smith and merrick garland's offices are moving forward with. but the other thing you have to understand is that there are multiple things going on. so we can't necessarily assume that the grand jury that is hearing information in washington is hearing the same exact information in florida. these cases, while they may be related, also may be distinctly different as you already talked about. jack smith is not only looking at the potential for election interference, he's looking at mar-a-lago and the documents case there. it is unclear as to whether these two cases are being heard exactly by the same grand jury as the grand jury in washington
you are hearing, how close they are? and do you feel as if maybe the president should have stayed in town this week and, to kind of get this thing done and sealed? >> yes, we are hearing information a bit after, you know, our leadership. but what we are hearing is of course that that republicans, they are sticking to their guns about wanting to cut, wanting to frame this as a spending issue instead of what it really is, which is an attempt to hold the american people hostage, to earn benefits from social security, to medicate, to pell grants. and what we are hoping is and what i, as a progressive i'm hoping is this is a moment for us to show strength. we need our administration, we need our party right now to say that this is a real deal, that we need to fight through the tape, and we're not going to sacrifice working class and poor americans as we figure out how to work through this manufactured crisis. >> i want to redo some
city official and other local officials in allen, texas. , nine people -- nine people have been killed. let's go now live senior correspondent casey stegall on the ground in texas. casey. >> my heart sank when i heard that number. behind the scenes since we been here not long after this happened this afternoon we were hearing information, some rumblings the number of dead was at four. five if you encounter or include themselves so to hear nine took me by surprise. one life too many but a bit surprising. five of the victims hospitalized and three in critical condition
city official and other local officials in allen, texas. , nine people -- nine people have been killed. let's go now live senior correspondent casey stegall on the ground in texas. casey. >> my heart sank when i heard that number. behind the scenes since we been here not long after this happened this afternoon we were hearing information, some rumblings the number of dead was at four. five if you encounter or include themselves so to hear nine took me by surprise. one life too many but a bit surprising. five of the victims hospitalized and three in critical condition
city official and other local officials in allen, texas. , nine people -- nine people have been killed. let's go now live senior correspondent casey stegall on the ground in texas. casey. >> my heart sank when i heard that number. behind the scenes since we been here not long after this happened this afternoon we were hearing information, some rumblings the number of dead was at four. five if you encounter or include themselves so to hear nine took me by surprise. one life too many but a bit surprising. five of the victims hospitalized and three in critical condition
city official and other local officials in allen, texas. , nine people -- nine people have been killed. let's go now live senior correspondent casey stegall on the ground in texas. casey. >> my heart sank when i heard that number. behind the scenes since we been here not long after this happened this afternoon we were hearing information, some rumblings the number of dead was at four. five if you encounter or include themselves so to hear nine took me by surprise. one life too many but a bit surprising. five of the victims hospitalized and three in critical condition