MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews October 11, 2019 23:08:00
Not good. >> so grant, what we're learning today from her statement, from what she's saying about rudy giuliani and hissert of campaign there to get her out, when trump says he heard very bad things, are we to assume he heard that from rudy giuliani? >> yeah, i think that's obvious. he's hearing things from rudy giuliani, and rudy giuliani is a conduit for things that he is hearing from officials or former officials in ukraine who are not pleased with the ambassador's position trying to fight corruption in that country. i mean, trump not only says he heard bad things about her, but if you go b...