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abortion illegal. my guest today is marjorie dannenfelser. group like hers are savouring a big victory. could it yet turn sour? marjorie dannenfelser in washington, dc, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much, stephen. let me start with the human and healthcare aspects of this recent supreme court ruling. is there any reason to believe there will be fewer abortions in the united states because of the decision the supreme court came up with? i'm glad you begin there, because it's a fully human issue. so far, we know there will be fewer abortions because many states have already passed ...

criticism for firing missiles at the ukrainian port of 0desa on saturday, jeopardising a deal to allow grain to leave the city. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. in overturning roe v wade, the us supreme court rejected the argument that the us constitution guaranteed a woman's right to an abortion. now it's down to lawmakers in individual states to decide. a host of state legislatures have already acted to make abortion illegal. my guest today is marjorie dannenfelser, president of the susan b anthony pro—life america group, an activist organisatio...

my guest today is marjorie dannenfelser, president of the susan b anthony pro—life america group, an activist organisation supporting anti—abortion politicians. groups like hers are savouring a big victory. could it yet turn sour? marjorie dannenfelser in washington, dc, welcome to hardtalk. thank you so much, stephen. let me start first with the human and health care aspects of the supreme court ruling. is there any reason to believe that there will be fewer abortions in the united states because of the decision the supreme court came up with? well, i'm glad you begin therapy be...

Do you share that view? here's what we don't know. there is an exception in that state for medical necessity. we don't know the details of that, we may never know. but i want to point out something really important you said before — true care for the needs of people in dire situations. it's very possible she could have had that in that state. i honestly don't know, don't think you know, don't think anybody who has made a big issue of this also knows. i do know hard cases make terrible law and you don't base the laws of each state on a really horrible, heart—rending case. well... wait, let ...

But i do know that hard cases make terrible law. and you don't base the laws of each state on a really horrible, heart rending case. well... but wait, let me finish the part of actual need of a woman who is living down by the river in a van with lots of kids are ready, she doesn't have a job, say she is underage, what are the needs that she has? abortion is not the panacea for every single lead in her life. her life is just like every body's life and that is complicated. there are reasons that she's gotten to this place, there's a reason that a mother would ever think about taking the life of ...