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Disaffected or lonely or angry, but the access we have to guns in this country is like almost no other place in the world. >> yes. and i just spoke with "the new york times" about this very issue. one of the things we saw, for instance, last year. we had 22 homicides committed by extremists of all stripes. 17 of these were guns, four knife, i think one vehicle. this year it's almost all long guns. bottom line, we're looking at young people. so we can look at a variety of restrictions. the supreme court in the heller case, antonin scalia said not everyone is entitled to a firearm at any time at...

Banning bump stocks. we saw universal background checks being passed in the united states house of representatives just last month. so there are, think, common sense, common ground place where's folks can start that we don't have to, again, wait until the next mass shooting. but the idea that weapons of war should belong on the streets in america anywhere, i just think is a little farfetched. >> i want to move on to a different subject because we have a lot of to discuss, but i just want to say, i note to anthony scalia said, this is the heller case, because he set the standard for what can an...

>> yes, because you needed five votes to lift the injunction that was blocking it, and the five conservatives, led by chief justice john roberts, said yes, and ruth bader ginsberg, sotomayor said no. so you had that fault line there. >> same question on guns. they're just saying we'll take the case, but it's been nearly ten years since they took a gun control case. is this the conservatives saying, we want another whack at the heller case which is defi defining definitions? >> absolutely. and the court hasn't stepped in, right. clarence thomas complained about that, said you're thumbing your n...

Unequivocal right to bear arms to every individual. >> that's exactly right. he was reflecting the conventional wisdom of centuries. it was only a decade ago that the supreme court in the heller case said that there was an individual right reflected in the second amendment. those well-regulated militias, which are foreign to us, were actually quite important to the founders. they believed they were a bulwark against tyranny and they were worried that the big, strong new central government might crush the state military forces, but they were unlike anything we have now. every -- >> so to be cle...

Amendment did not confer an unequivocal right to bear arms to every individual. >> that's exactly right. he was reflecting the conventional wisdom of centuries. it was only a decade ago that the supreme court in the heller case said that there was an individual right reflected in the second amendment. those well-regulated militias, which are foreign to us, were actually quite important to the founders. they believed they were a bulwark against tyranny and they were worried that the big, strong new central government might crush the state military forces, but they were unlike anything we have n...