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but it's also something that rattles them up to the polls like mask mandates, vaccine mandates, things around transgender students, what pronouns they should be called, house they should be treated. so it's not an education plan per se in the way of thinking about it as an observer and voter, and apparent. it's not like that. it's more a rally up his supporters in an election that will be overwhelmingly determined by which side gets more of their people out. >> that's not to say it's not an issue, obviously there are parents who care about the staff. but i just want to be clear that it wasn't missing something, because i've covered races that are about education, teacher class size, high stakes testing, all these education policy issues. but it seems that we are talking about here is this anger that many parents feel
lisa, i want to start on sort of a meat and potatoes camping question. i followed this race like many national political observers but i haven't followed it closely, and i'm not a virginian. people talk about youngkin and education is being important, but going through the website today, is there an education proposal, or platform plank that is not about the security stuff? is there some version of george w. bush's big, we will do this this and this, high stakes testing, etc, or is it just under the way of saying the crtc staff? >> it's sort of another way of offering this big rally price for a lot of things that motivate his conservative a base. crtc of course there's an academic concept that is not taught till college or lost tool, so it's not something tie in virginia schools.
so it is not surprising to see a recently proposed republican bill in the north carolina state house announced that it aims to ensure dignity and non-discrimination in schools while putting strict limits on what schools can teach when it comes to race, including a ban on promoting, quote, the belief that the united states is a meritocracy is inherently racist or sexist or was created by members of a particular race or sex for the purpose of oppressing members of another race or sex. huh, the idea that meritocracy could be elevated to sacrosanct american civics under force of law is just insane to me. first of all, obviously the word is nowhere in the constitution or our founding documents. it was invented by a leftist british sociologist, michael young in the 1950s to describe what he conjured as a dystopian and unjust future society where all positions in society were remorselessly determined by high stakes testing. that's the origin of that term.
kids books of all time, we're going on a bear hunt, which, last time i checked, i think it sold more than 8 million copies. you've had time to reflect on something that you've written about and talked about a lot which is, you feel that the education system is failing to inject enough, sort of, fun and engagement with books amongst today's generation of kids. words and books are your lifeblood and it seems you feel that school is failing to make words and books accessible and fun for kids. why and what can be done about it? well, i think that in this country, particularly in england, that part of the united kingdom, there's been an overemphasis on testing, and the kind of testing, what we call summative testing, the kind testing that comes at the end of a period of study. and not only that, it's what we call high stakes testing, in other words, it's government—run
time, we are going on a bear hunt, which the last time you checked i think it sold more than 8 million copies. you have had time to reflect on something that you have written about and talked about a lot which is, you feel that the education system is failing to inject enough sort of fun and engagement with books amongst today's generation of kids. words and books are your lifeblood and themes you feel that school is failing to make words and books accessible and fun for kids. why and what can be done about it?— fun for kids. why and what can be done about it? well, i think that in this _ be done about it? well, i think that in this country, _ that in this country, particularly in england, that particularly in england, that part of the united kingdom, there been an overemphasis on testing and the kind of testing as summits of testing, the testing that comes at the end of a period of study and it is high stakes testing, in other
which the last time you checked i think it sold more than 8 million copies. you have had time to reflect on something that you have written about and talked about a lot which is, you feel that the education system is failing to inject enough sort of fun and engagement with books amongst today's generation of kids. words and books are your lifeblood and it seems you feel that school is failing to make words and books accessible and fun for kids. why and what can be done about it? well, i think that in this country, particularly in england, that part of the united kingdom, there's been an overemphasis on testing, and the kind of testing, what we call summative testing, the kind testing that comes at the end of a period of study. and not only that, it's what we call high stakes testing, in other words it is government—run and centralised and then it is used in order to grade schools in a league table.
testing, and testing in park he acknowledged his administration had some part in creating. take a listen. >> i believe that in moderation, smart strategic tests can help us measure our kids' progress in school. it can help them learn. but i also hear from parents who rightly worry about too much testing. and from teachers who feel so much pressure to teach to a test that it takes the joy out of teaching and learning. both for them and for the students. >> now, the president is not calling for a stop of those testing all together, in fact, arne duncan, the secretary of education, who announced he's going to be leaving at the end of the year in december, said there should be at least one standardized test per year. what's been happening is way too much. again, the government took an opportunity to acknowledge their part in this testing, some $4 billion was appropriated in the race to the top initiative, which is an obama administration
so much right now, because mitt romney beat barack obama, right? the way the general election polls showed this time in 2012. good luck with that. good luck with that. >> stay with me. >> i hope you bet on those general election polls. >> maria, buck, stay with me. you need a commercial break to calm down. we're going to come back and talk about a very important issue to every single kid in america right now, high stakes testing. next, a surprising move made from the white house, the obama administration and also what donald trump has to say on education. but first, this week's human factor. on 30 rock, tracy morgan made us laugh. >> i am a jedi! >> by playing an over the top version of himself. the role earned him an emmy nomination and scores of fans. morgan first rose to fame in the '90s on "saturday night live." >> that is a liar.
>> true, i mean, some of this, again, is not just about teachers. it's about the culture of the whole buildings, like how useful or impactful are metal detectors. how are we using the spaces in the building for detention or detain and move students. we have to think of the entire culture of schools. i do a lot of volunteer work in public schools. a lot of teachers are concerned about classroom management. we have to try to get families and parents more in the schools as opposed to getting law enforcement in there. none of this work is about high stakes testing, right? this is where all the money and talk about reforming schools and all the sort of testing, that's not a part of what we're talking about here. this is about grassroots efforts to build communities that can provide support systems but then alternatives for how do we address disciplinary issues. >> a friend of ours and a