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Above but i don't think this has anything to do with him running, anderson, or not running. at the moment, you know, according to everything i hear, i think he is running. could that change? absolutely. and maybe, he doesn't. but at the -- if the election -- even if the election were in a few months or if he had to make a decision today, i think his decision would be to run. i think that statement he put out suggesting that republicans should make election fraud, as he puts it, a central issue for 2022 or 2024. um, and saying don't vote. you know, if -- if that's not the case, obviously, that ...

Is clearly what he runs on. and everybody in the gop who is running as well is going to have to -- you know, we already saw chuck grassley last night kind of tiptoeing through hoops to try to avoid, you know, repeating what he said in the immediate aftermath of the insurrection which was very negative against trump. he's now completely unwilling to -- to publicly utter those words, again. >> that's right. and look. we're at a point where, you know, chuck grassley, for instance, is running for election again. he has been in his seat a very long time. republicans who are looking to win in 2022 a...

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Him the election, and suggesting that everything else that has taken place is illegitimate. that january 6th, you know, either didn't happen the way everyone saw it happen on -- on television. it played out in real-time. or that, you know, there were actors or there were agitators and so forth and so on. agitators, not actors. you know, i think that you will see him doing more of that. there is something of a scenario here, right, where, you know, bannon is essentially acting as if heads, he wins. tails, you lose. and this is what happens when you very slowly start to pull away guardrails and ...

Former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham on Monday said it was a mistake to work for former President Trump.