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Did this surprise you, bob? >> well, it didn't surprise me, because i think that the republicans certainly recognized that they have a political problem, and are looking for a way to somehow turn the tables a little bit on the hispanic, you know, the hispanic problem, that they have, but it's influential, because she was not one of the gang of eight. so this could bring others with her. >> right. the six here, esther, now the question is, is this bill filibuster-proof? looks less so because of the fact there are six republicans behind it, and most of the democrats minus maybe a couple, two or ...

Then tacked far to the right. >> hillary clinton, i'm not her speechwriter, she will go after the worst in your party. she won't debate the guy running against her, she'll debate the worst elements in your party. >> we have gender gap problem. we have an hispanic problem. we have to have somebody that expands the base. >> what would you say the woman not your age, my age, said it's about time to have a woman president. how do you fight that argument if she's obviously qualified? >> it's a tough one. you have to find those women -- there will be a woman who will vote purely on it. you have to m...

She won't debate the guy running against her. she'll debate the worst he wiels of your party. >> our problem with hillary clinton, is we have a gender gap problem, a hispanic problem. we need someone to expand the base. >> what about the woman my age who says it's about time we had a woman president? how do you fight that argument if she's obviously qualified? >> it's a tough one. you've got to find a woman who -- there's a lot of women that will vote purely on that. you've got to make this a competence zish competence issue with hillary? good luck. >> i think hillary is a tough candidate for ...

And end up at the heritage foundation. >> maybe want to be the next santorum, follow to the right but own it. >> what rick santorum did was move to the center and lost and then tacked far to the right. >> hillary clinton, i'm not her speechwriter, she will go after the worst in your party. she won't debate the guy running against her, she'll debate the worst elements in your party. >> we have gender gap problem. we have an hispanic problem. we have to have somebody that expands the base. >> what would you say the woman not your age, my age, said it's about time to have a woman president. how d...

Of those people will suffer an enormous loss of not only revenue, but of jobs. and the country as a result of that will suffer. i think bob shrum is right. the president has to barnstorm and shuttle public policy here, get on the road, tell the american people exactly what is at stake. >> and folks, what michael is just talk about right, there that's $45 billion between now and the end of the year of cuts. out of this year's budget, 2013. now, the republican response to the state of the union is going to be divided. senator marco rubio of florida is giving the official response. senator rand p...