Leaders, including the eu president went to kyiv i think the day before boris johnson went to kyiv and handed him the application and said we'll expedite the process. that really is history changing. this battle in ukraine has been going on now for 20 years, almost 20 years since the orange revolution about this pull from east to west. it's playing out right now. again, as we said time and again, vladimir putin has miscalculated and he's going to have ukraine a member of the eu. >> they are incredible. >> by the way, finland -- >> and sweden and members of nato. stick around, ambassador mcfaul...