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joins me live to discuss the new strategy. and, rebellion, speaker kevin mccarthy s far-right flank isn t happy, and that has messed things up in the house. could a government shutdown be in our future? i am jonathan capehart, this is the saturday show. it has been a rough week for twice impeached, and twice indicted former president donald trump. you re seeing a former president of the united states under the espionage act of 1917. it wasn t meant for this. and act for a crime so heinous that only the death penalty would do. it s one of the most outrageous and vicious legal theories ever put forward in an american court of law. the espionage act has been used to go after traitors and spies, it has nothing to do with a former president legally keeping his own documents. okay, let s be clear. the classified documents, legally did not belong to trump. which is why on tuesday donald trump had to surrender at a miami federal court to face 37 counts of mishandl ....
Ruth, as always, thank you very much for coming to the show. just here, i ve read the words in the newspaper, but to hear him say that is rather chilling. what stood out to me is his conflation, of his legal woes, with grievances of people who follow him. this is classic authoritarianism, isn t it? yes. you have stated it very nicely. the conflation of his personal legal troubles with the nation. what he s doing now is he s a cult leader, jonathan, i think you know i feel he s a cult leader. not a conventional politician. he has people, thousands of people to assault the capitol to save him. but that was sometime ago. so he has got to keep those bonds, refreshed. how do you do? that because he s in such trouble, he fears people will turn away from him. so he s making them victims as ....
so in court, donald trump s 2024 as a potential campaign rally. harry lippman is here to talk about trump s legal woes, and ruth on trump s authoritarian playbook. gun reform, president biden marks the first anniversary of a landmark gun safety law, but says more needs to be done, congresswoman lucy mcbath, who lost her son to gun violence ....
American people can hear what is happening in the courtroom? 100%. maybe 50/50 that it will happen. it is a fussy tradition where federal courts think people will actually kind of act up if cameras are there. but this is as hard and important news for people as anything going on absolutely, i don t see a big problem that donald trump will somehow change the way he is because cameras are there would be important to at least have audio. we without question, he will turn into a campaign rally. harry lippman, thank you so much for coming to the saturday show. thank you for having me. coming up, why we should worry about trump s authoritarian rhetoric after his indictment. i will speak to history expert ruth benn about that after the break, don t go anywhere it s nothing. sounds like something. when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion ....
Skyrocketed during donald trump s presidency. because he gave out the message that he rewarded lawlessness. he appreciated lawlessness. that was the point of him saying he could stand on fifth avenue, and shoot someone, and not lose any followers. that was clear from january 2016. you know, you are 100% correct. ruth, it is always terrific to see you. , and to hear your insight, even though what we talk about is terrifying. ruth ben-ghiat. thank you very much for coming back to the saturday show. up next, it s been a year since president biden signed a landmark gun prevention measure. my next guest, whose son died from gun violence says more needs to be done. georgia congresswoman lucy mcbath joins me live after a quick break to discuss. quick break to discuss (tap, tap) listen, your deodorant just has to work. i use secret aluminum free. just swipe and it lasts all day. ....