Again to paint this president as a really mean and bad person when really he's done everything right. >> the other thing they prefers going on and on about russia which we are not meant to about here. so, tammy, the reason i go on about the wall is because if you have that you wouldn't have the people coming, the caravans, the terrible humanitarian conditions of the border, all of that because you wouldn't have any incentive. >> that's right. and what you also wouldn't have is the chaos that keeps everyone distracted and is not looking at maybe other specific things that congress is doing, all...