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Once again, reporter for role call, simone, great to have you back with us. what does this say this nunez trip about how republicans plan to proceed with the russia probe the fact that he went oversea, tried to set up these meetings with british intelligence agencies that refuse to see it? >> 83, i think it says a certain faction of republicans are really dead set here on investigating the investigation. >> that is something that is not going away. it's something a lot of their base support. that's not to say all republican, of course, are on board with this. there are those who would like to ...

Rosenstein and the special counsel mueller. and that's why there would be, as lindsey graham said, a year nag july, holy hell to pay. >> he's changed his mind now. but he also says anyone nominated to replace sessions must promise during senate confirmation hearings and colluding in your judiciary hearing committee that this individual promise not to interfere, allow mueller to get the job done, finish his investigation. >> that may be a hope, but i think it is somewhat unrealistic to expect the president of the united states who says that his major complaint about his attorney general is in e...

Any attorney general. >> certainly don't -- forgive me. they don't represent the president or his business interests. they represent the people for the country. and that's the ideal they stand for. >> what's interesting, though, too, just to touch on something else you said, bill, you know we are seeing some conservatives sort of change their tune a little bit. case in point, lindsey graham. this is what he had to say in 2017. >> if jeff sessions is fired there's holy hell to pay. >> that was then. nearly a year ago. holy hell to pay. this is now. >> and i think there'll come a time sooner rat...

Barack obama was president? could you start in 2008? that's 2005. it's going actually straight down. when barack obama is president of the united states. that line is why hispanic groups and immigrant groups gave barack obama holy hell for eight years. when donald trump is talking about this being a barack obama problem, he's just again woshd of the lay day lying. >> he's wrong about one other thing. it shows you one more piece of data. in fact, the number of mexicans crossing the border is dropping even more sharply and the number increasing somewhat are the central americans that he's talkin...

Use the phrase, holy hell, because donald trump is anti-abortion, and that's the only issue they care about. >> can you give franklin graham some slack when he says he's about forgiveness, that that is a christian value that he holds dear? >> they always fall back on that forgiveness when it's a republican president. i didn't hear any forgiveness on bill clinton. >> okay. kirsten, where should the line be drawn with the president or with the people that we elect to lead us? >> the american people define that with every election. they decide where the line is. it seems like even though donald t...