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Of argument and way you have spoken in public office your whole life. you winning reelection in ohio even as a lot of people say ohio is becoming an increasingly red state and winning fairly comfortably. your ability to communicate on issues that are paycheck issues and pocketbook issues for people across this country is something i think people are hungry for when they ask you to run. does it stress you out that people are putting that on you or do you -- how are you dealing with this? >> sure, it's -- >> it would stress me out. >> it's not without anxiety to think about any of this. i -- con...

Corporate profits are up. executive compensation is exploding. their productivity is up and their wages are flat. there is something intrinzically wrong with our economy and it starts with respecting work and governing that way. >> senator sherrod brown of ohio, thank you for talking to me about these things. i realize everybody's bugging you about this question about whether or not you're going to run. i don't mean to bug you about it, but i am super interested to think what you might bring to the debate. >> thank you. >> how might your presence in the debate, whether or not you win, your pre...

About much, that's the federal contractors that are making the -- that provide food -- that work in the kitchens and do the security and do the custodial work at federal facilities. they're making $10, $12, $15 an hour. if they have a union, they make a little more. if they don't, they make a little less. they've lost their jobs in the past. they haven't gotten backed pay so they are really left out of this. >> so you're saying the federal workers being forced to work without pay right now are in bad enough straits, but if you're a federal contractor, working as a food service worker or someth...

Have lost their jobs or working without pay. >> you said that you and your wife connie are thinking about whether or not you might make a run. when will you decide and will you talk to me about it? >> i'll always talk to you, rachel. of course. we're going to -- the four early states, iowa, new hampshire, nevada, south carolina, we'll do a dignity of work listening tour. i'm not trying to have the largest rally or biggest crowds. i want to listen to people and hear them whether and when i talk about the dignity of work, it's acedar rapids or a physical therapist in concord or a restaurant work...

The democratic party. you have really straddled both of those lanes. you really have operated in both of those spaces your whole public life. why has that never been a problem for you? >> you go to my hometown or the city of cleveland or appalachia and people have the same hopes and dreams, people think if you work ought you ought to be able to get ahead. if you love your country, you fight for the people who make it work, whether you punch a clock or swipe a badge or raising children or caring for an aging parent or working on a salary or working for tips. and this expansive sort of expansive...