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Following low poll numbers and a disappointing september jobs report. let's bring in our panel for analysis. louisiana talk radio show host jeff -- and democratic strategist michael star hopkins. gentlemen, welcome. >> thanks for having us. mike: let's play a clip from former labor secretary eugene scalia. >> president biden ran as a moderating influence. he scarcely has controlled the senate, very close in the house, but he's trying to govern as a far more progressive person than he ran, and i think that's disappointed a lot of americans. mike: michael, is that fair? the senate is 50-50, and ...

Which is coming up, which could be a compromise, 2.5 trillion, 3 trillion, whatever they come up with -- that's not going to help the average mesh. i think it's -- american. it's just going to increase our costs, make inflation go up. now, michael was talking about the trump years. remember, we aha unemployment down to 3.5%, gasoline was, i think, about $1.50. i'll take those kind of numbers versus what we're seeing urn joe biden. everything is higher now, and that's really -- [inaudible conversations] americans and the poll numbers are are going down as a result. mike: all right. jeff, michae...

Biden overall approval, 38% to 5 3% disapprove. michael, how alarming are those numbers, in your view? >> yeah, i think the white house is definitely going to take numbers seriously. the cbs poll that came out this morning putting president biden over 50 president, i think, was a little more reassuring. but we can't keep talking about this in terms of elections. yes, midterms are coming up, but when you look at the build back better bill, reconciliation, we're talking about expanding access to pre-k, bringing down prices for the medicine for seniors and expanding access to medicine for individ...

States. and so i think when we look at the jobs numbers and look at the president's performance, those have to be counted. mike: jeff, how do you respond to michael? >> well, i mean, joe biden's a disaster, mike. he's failed in everything, the border, the economy, foreign policy, the military. and i think the american people are just responding to his record. i mean, hen ran as this moderate -- he ran as this moderate, and he's governed as a far-left divider. and this is not a socialist country, and he's really moving in the direction of bernie sanders and the far, far left. and that's really,...