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How unjust the current situation is. if he would do that, then it's just a question of what is his message and do people believe it. >> i get it. i get that message matters. so does money. and the argument is you, arguably even bloomberg, we've had invitations to him to be on the show, he hasn't wanted to come on and make his case yet, we'll see if he does. but for the money, you guys aren't in this race. and is that okay that the process even allows it? >> let me put it this way, chris. i'm not a famous person. and in order to get my message out, i have to do what i've done for ten years when...

As for us, we do what we do. we fight your fight. we demand the powerful answer to you and sometimes it works like this did. >> did you ask the ukraine to investigate joe biden? >> no. actually i didn't. >> so you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> you just said you didn't. >> you've got to have the fight because every so often, heated moments, they shed some light. not always, but sometimes. as ugly as it's been, and it is uglier for some of us than anything i've ever seen in this business before, you definitely have the facts of what happened and when and why with...

Mad, sad, and frustrated by the process that's taken so long in the house or you know what? there are other things we could be doing that we are not doing. underscored by the last-minute passage of that big trade agreement between the united states, mexico, and canada. i think mexico is our number one trading partner. the fact that agreement was held up for almost one year because they didn't want to give the president a win on anything and they wanted to occupy their time with impeachment. people are frustrated by this. >> it will be interested to see one a trial actually begins. if it goes i...

>> absolutely. bernie sanders has raised untold amount of money. he has an huge email a list which allows them to have resources to compete through the end of the nomination process. i think one thing that is not being told here is the enduring power of moderates in the primary. you see the rise of pete buttigieg, joe biden's numbers have remained relatively stable throughout the entire process. that's something to think about it come i think this is up for grabs. >> will get to the issue of moderates in a minute. joe bided du the rcp average in iowa for democrats. in new hampshire, sanders is...

Of a political year. >> you think they are stalling to continue digging and they hope they find something more? >> look, they had all the tools at their disposal up on the house side. they made it secret not just behind locked doors but with armed guards outside the doors. they still haven't made all of the transcripts available to members of congress and according to house rules any committee hearing is supposed to be the transcript available to other house members. they have not done so. no one has asserted that these are classified briefings, they were just simply secret hearings because it...