how unjust the current situation is. if he would do that, then it's just a question of what is his message and do people believe it. >> i get it. i get that message matters. so does money. and the argument is you, arguably even bloomberg, we've had invitations to him to be on the show, he hasn't wanted to come on and make his case yet, we'll see if he does. but for the money, you guys aren't in this race. and is that okay that the process even allows it? >> let me put it this way, chris. i'm not a famous person. and in order to get my message out, i have to do what i've done for ten years when i've been trying to correct problems in our society from the outside, which is i have to put in all my time and all my effort and blood, sweat, and tears, and the money to get that message out. so if you don't -- if i weren't allowed to do that, you would be basically saying only famous people get to do this or only senators. >> i hear you about that.